"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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What do you guys think about PUA's?

Blue Phoenix

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ready123 said:
Tyler's point was the girl would pick up at 4 am because he's higher value, not that calling at 4 am demonstrates higher value
Yeah, that´s more or less the same thing. To me this has nothing to do with higher value, but that´s just me.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Blue Phoenix said:
Yeah, that´s more or less the same thing. To me this has nothing to do with higher value, but that´s just me.
another way to look at it is as supplication but with the genders reversed. and I think his definition of value, is perceived value, meaning what a girl thinks you're worth. not what type of man you really are

and it's not really a concept as it is a general observation. people react to those who they feel are higher value. it's the same reason a gorgeous girl can walk into a room and a bunch of guys who are talking pause the conversation to check her out

I wouldn't call a chick at an inconvenient time either, but if I did, and the girl picked up and was more than willing to talk to me, that says a lot about her interest in me
 

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From what I've seen - the PUA I have most respect for is Matador. Other's like Mystery, TD.. are still geeks trying to cover it up with outrageous clothes and memorized routines.
 

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DJVladdy said:
From what I've seen - the PUA I have most respect for is Matador. Other's like Mystery, TD.. are still geeks trying to cover it up with outrageous clothes and memorized routines.
TD doesnt do that at all. He used too, but completely redefined his game, and started over using no lines or routines. I dont think he peacocks either. His game is 100% core confidence, and high self value. He teaches against using canned openers. He is totally impromptu. When he talks about calling a girl at 4 am, he is only saying that he wouldnt be afraid to if he wanted too. Its all about ultimate inner game, and having the balls to do crazy shyt everyone would be afraid to do. He'll use funny facial expressions for openers. He's the opposite of MM now, even though he used to do MM style himself. I'll have to look into Matador. I've never heard of him.

EDIT: I checked out Matador. He's one of Mystery's guys. He has the same canned routine game, nothing against them, cuz it obviously works, but its not for me. Im completely sold on TD, and RSD.
 
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wow its incredible how out of date a lot of you are
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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I hang around with quite a few PUA's and they are all very decent guys. So naturally I like them. I consider myself to be one in a sense. Being a PUA doesnt mean you are just out to bang as many girls as possible. To me being a PUA is about gaining enough experience with women that you aquire an ability with them to have choice. I want to be able to attract a decent wife when I am older, and to do so, im going to have to work for it. Might have gone abit off topic there, but asking the question what do you think about PUA's implies that they have a bad name
 
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