"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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What are you guys after?

What are you guys after?

  • A relationship

    Votes: 11 91.7%
  • Just a shag

    Votes: 1 8.3%

  • Total voters
    12

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Ace of Flames

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I think more guys here are in it to try and get a relationship. If they ONLY wanna fvck, they'd be doing speed seduction or something similar. Its a lot of work to be a respectable DJ, so people wanting a quick screw usually don't apply.

But hey, what do I know? This site has changed alot.
 

comic_relief

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Ace of Flames said:
I think more guys here are in it to try and get a relationship. If they ONLY wanna fvck, they'd be doing speed seduction or something similar. Its a lot of work to be a respectable DJ, so people wanting a quick screw usually don't apply.
"a lot of work!?!" HAHAHAHAHA *wheeze cough cough* HAHAHAHAHA Understatement of the year award. RIGHT THERE

It took me three years of constant and neverending improvement to get me to the point that I am at right now. I still don't consider myself a true DJ, but I'm working at it.

The road is not for the faint of heart, but it is a helluva lot of fun.

BTW originally I came here as a WBAFC, and three years and two relationships later. I got what I wanted tenfold. Whatever you put in, you will get back out.

comic_relief
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Mental

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NickSCFC2000 said:
Megan Fox's number. Ha ha. No... actually, I'm looking for a great relationship (where for the most part I am happy) with a good woman.
 
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