"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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What are the odds in your personal experience

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I have a few personal friends who are players and the odds they seem to have vary dramatically. Some get numbers from 80% of women, some get them from 20%. However i think the reason my one friend gets 80% is he only approaches women who he senses are checking him out (he is a bodybuilder) while the 20% guy just approaches cold whomever strikes his fancy. 20% for a cold approach seems pretty high actually when you consider that alot of women are in relationships or are not interested in you.

So what are the odds you are seeing for getting numbers or dates.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Le Parisien

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I personally don't think getting numbers is necessarily a gauge of success since getting numbers is NOT our goal pers se.

Getting dates is on the other hand a very good measure of success.
 
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Originally posted by Le Parisien
I personally don't think getting numbers is necessarily a gauge of success since getting numbers is NOT our goal pers se.

Getting dates is on the other hand a very good measure of success.
True.
 

So pimp its scary

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"the only way that you know for sure that a girl is into you is if she lets you put your penis in her vagina."

and even then...
 

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...that just means you picked up a tramp.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Originally posted by WaterTiger
...that just means you picked up a tramp.
Every girl is a "tramp." The good girls, the smart girls to the party girls, they've all had multiple hookups and one night stands.
 

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It's all how you define 'good girl'. Many people consider 'good girls' who stay monogamous while in relationship but slvt it up HARDCORE when they're single - that the modern, 'big-city, fast-life' defnition of a 'good' (moral) girl. Some really do think that any random acts of sex or whatever is bad, and actually don't sleep around. I think you definately have a point JT, but your views may be very strongly colored by the type of social scene you immerse yourself in, and thus what kind of women you run into.
 
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