"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
(Wanna Be)Smart asses on the Boards are
- Thread starter S-lemond
- Start date
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Yes, I do believe we share a similar philosophy and it's no coincidence as you have been a particular inspiration and help to me on this board. Your photo is definitely congruent with what you teach and I have to agree it's one of the reasons I've always paid so much attention to your advice. It's easy to believe that women fall over you without much effort, and in my eyes, that's the peak of being a "DJ" and everything I want from this community. So I've gladly taken your advice and followed your philosophy and I believe there are many others (esp the H&F regulars) who think the same.
I also agree that I am not going to take the advice of just anybody who speaks a big game without some kind of evidence. I actually did that a lot when I started here and tested almost every theory and acted on every piece of advice I was given...and I paid for it quite harshly at times. Luckily I have a bit more conviction in myself and more experience under my belt these days, but it does worry me that some other newbies will do the same and risk destroying a relationship or their confidence as a result. It's scary because some guys who come here have serious issues, with some verging on suicidal and these braggart theorists could do more harm than they realise.
However, I generally think it's wise for people just to treat these as discussion boards, rather than professional councelling and guidance columns.
lurker
Senior Don Juan
pook
vassago
giovanni
playersupreme
sirchancelaot
adonis
mrfingers
Some of these guys showed prove of picture and some did not pook never showed any prove as far as i know and he is till respected* i may be wrong? it goes both ways me thinks posting a picture with a girl does not, i repeat does not make you a dj
he he he you all think im a newbies.
so the saying you are who your friends are is only partly true or whats your take on it?
btw what does this mean when im not envious nor putting guys with game on a pedestal(have done this before) only having respect and being interested, does this mean i have game myself or what huuummm interesting
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Originally posted by lurker
I HAVE been a lurking for 4 years here and to me the only people with real game here are
pook
vassago
giovanni
playersupreme
sirchancelaot
adonis
mrfingers
Some of these guys showed prove of picture and some did not pook never showed any prove as far as i know and he is till respected* i may be wrong? it goes both ways me thinks posting a picture with a girl does not, i repeat does not make you a dj
he he he you all think im a newbies.
and what makes you think these guys are better djs than every other person that posts here? anyone can be a guru online these guys like pook just wrote motivational posts thats all.
brucevangeorge
Banned
All in favor of this being stickied Say Ah
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Know what's sad?
DR BEARD IS RIGHT!
There's been too much whining on the form, too much conflict(even in this thread!) and not enough support!
The best thing that could be done here is to make a FIELD REPORT FORUM! That would centralize information that men have used in the field. This information could be easily found, read and condensed into a form worthy of the tips section by readers, or by the poster of the field report himself.
We are here to share information. Not to pretend, not to attack others, not to whine. We are here to learn.
MetalFortress
Master Don Juan
SELF-MASTERY
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That is ALL one really needs...... I've been a lil bitkh over the last few months. My game has grown very stale. Im so out of practice. I'm going to get all manic and go on a sarging bender. I need the vigor that I had when I first got here....
make the ho say no
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
"THEY KNOW WHAT WATCH YOU ARE WEARING!!!! LOLZ OMG ROFLZORZ"..
i hate people who talk like that and think they got it all
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=85372
no offense to the poster but that post was as lame as it can get..