"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Voicemails/Phone Tag & Texting

BJP1991

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Hey All,

Started dating a new girl recently, had two fun dates in last 3 weeks and upon conclusion of date #2, she indicated via text that she had a lot of fun would be great to see me again soon. Being that we are both busy adults (weddings/family in town, etc.) I did not get around to calling her the Sunday after our second date (which was the preceding Tuesday).

Left her a short vm (Hey, Girlfirstname, it's Myfirstname, give me a call back when you can! Bye!" - keeping it short not to babble on (the phone is meant for settings appointments/dates with women you are interested in, especially early on).

She texted me an hour or so later, saying "Sorry!" and indicated she was out with family (who happens to be in town), busy with them, etc.

My question is, do I reply? Do I now go ahead and ask her out via text as the communication medium, for a date this week/ask when she is available to get together soon?

Or should I just wait it out and allow her to call me instead, since that is what I said in my VM?

Hopefully an easy discussion, but this is something I have encountered in the past, and I am sure some of you have as well (leave girl VM after a couple dates, she texts within 4-6 hours saying busy currently doing xyz thing). How would you proceed with the goal of making a definite date in the coming week?

Thanks!
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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marmel75

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Why are you not texting her? You were so busy you didn't have time to text her? Do you need to schedule it on your calendar for the 10 seconds it would take? Didn't have time to text her while taking a dump? Oh let me guess...you were on 3 conference calls, replying to 500 emails and busy trading stocks to make $1 million while doing that. No time while walking into work? I mean do you see how ridiculous that sounds?

I mean cmon OP...sounds like Bullsh!t to me. Why do you feel the need to call??
 

BJP1991

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Why are you not texting her? You were so busy you didn't have time to text her? Do you need to schedule it on your calendar for the 10 seconds it would take? Didn't have time to text her while taking a dump? Oh let me guess...you were on 3 conference calls, replying to 500 emails and busy trading stocks to make $1 million while doing that. No time while walking into work? I mean do you see how ridiculous that sounds?

I mean cmon OP...sounds like Bullsh!t to me. Why do you feel the need to call??
Because the phone is for making dates and appointments only - I think you might not understand that texting a girl too much only serves to lower her attraction. Have you ever had success from texting a girl incessantly between dates? Save the talk for in-person, right?
 

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Because the phone is for making dates and appointments only - I think you might not understand that texting a girl too much only serves to lower her attraction. Have you ever had success from texting a girl incessantly between dates? Save the talk for in-person, right?
I was asking why you didnt just text her to set up a date. Why do you feel the need to call? The method is irrelevant. This is overthinking things to the max.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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R.U.G.

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OP, I told you what to text. Do that and nothing more. It works. Until you fvck and have a pattern, it's use is strictly for setting dates; nothing more.
 

BJP1991

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OP, I told you what to text. Do that and nothing more. It works. Until you fvck and have a pattern, it's use is strictly for setting dates; nothing more.
Hey, yeah I sent one along those lines of what you wrote. Third date is set for this week.

Thanks
 

marmel75

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Hey, yeah I sent one along those lines of what you wrote. Third date is set for this week.

Thanks
See how easy that was?
 
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