Starting seeing a girl at the beggining of the month, she's returning home for this weekend (and boy isn't that encouraging my paranoia) so assuming all goes well I'll be seeing her again the weekend after Valentine's Day. I haven't even seriously kissed her yet; should I buy her a little something? Even mention that it was Valentine's Day?
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Valentine's Day, only second date
- Thread starter Leporello
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
DonGorgon
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NO! but you can ask her what she did.... and listen to the lie...Leporello said:
To be fair... on our first date she did talk a great deal about how her older sister was expecting and that it was due any day now, and that is why she's away... but that is not finally the point.DonGorgon said:
amoka
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Definitely not. The best gift you can give a woman is to keep her in a state of wonder. No need to give her any gift. Have you asked yourself what I'm getting from her if I give her something now---when I know there is nothing substantial between us. If your response is her saying "thank you. You're so sweet." Then, don't. Wait till she gives you a gift and tell her " oh well, I have a gift for you too... Close your eyes. " Then plant a kiss on her lips. The best Valentine's gift she'd probably have....Leporello said:
-Amoka
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
PRMoon
Master Don Juan
Valentines day is a farce. You have to believe in yourself and shrug off the societal responsibility of heart day that's forced upon you. If you haven't been dating someone for that long and valentines day happens upon you, be cool and make the other person aware that you haven't been a "couple" for long enough for the world to dictate what should and should not be happening between you two. Strength and confidence aren't givens as a man, they're earned and respected.
ValleyDJing
Master Don Juan
If you aren't officially together, don't get her anything.
PRMoon
Master Don Juan
See ValleyDJ backs my opinion 100% thus it must be true! You have no obligation and should act accordingly!ValleyDJing said: