"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Using a woman financially

Exil

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Hi gents.

This isn't something I've ever come across before. As some of you will know, I'm still quite new to the red pill and wanted to ask a question about one of my friends.

He's the same age as me (34) and has three children with his ex. They broke up about 6 months ago and he's just started dating someone. This particular woman is literally a hb3 or hb4 but has a lot of inheritance from her father when he passed a few years ago (tens of millions).

He's told me he doesn't find her even remotely attractive but he's using her financially as she keeps buying him things, new car, Tag watch, new iPhone to name a few of the lavish gifts so far. This girl is really desperate for someone to love her so has virtually no boundaries or standards for treatment. She is a friend and work colleague of his sister also, which he says made it easier "getting his foot in the door". I personally think it's a bit harsh as this could destroy the friendship between his sister and this girl.

So my question on this is -

Would you consider this an alpha move, to use a woman financially? He was always very beta before and really under the thumb with his now ex. He says that he's doing what he wants now and getting whatever he can get. He's also spinning other plates but this girl is now pretty much his girlfriend as he's moved in with her (rent free).
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Black Widow Void

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This girl is really desperate for someone to love her so has virtually no boundaries or standards for treatment.
Are you absolutely certain about this? Something tells me that this is no different than the balding but wealthy 60+ year old male that is 'dating' the 20 something 'trophy' girl.
On some level, they both know that they are participating in a buyer and sellers market.
I suspect that no differently than the balding 60+ year old, the " hb3 or hb4 " female knows her perceived value as well. And through the means of legal tender, they are purchasing their fantasy.
 

thinker

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OP I think your friend is damaged and he is a scumbag, the same way that I don't think women should use men I also don't think men should use women. I have a problem with people that use other people , I think it is one of the lowest forms of living that their is. Having said that as @Black Widow Void pointed out , I believe that at some level this women knows the game that is being played. I think that this will eventually damage the relationship between the sister and this women so their will be plenty of drama in the future. My suggestion to you is try to not get involved and if I was you I wouldn't trust your friend as far as I could throw him. This is not an alpha move.
 

Scars

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I wouldn't consider that Alpha at all.. that's pretty lame. The reason I work hard, and constantly educate myself is so I can provide for myself financially without the need of a woman. I consider that alpha. I have my own house, my own truck, my own business, I have everything I need. If a woman comes into my life, she is entering MY world, and I call the shots. She's gonna learn real quick that I don't need her for anything, and she can be replaced at any second if she acts up.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Exil

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Thanks for the replies. To be honest, this is pretty much my thinking on the situation. It was moreso his demeanor and complete lack of fvcks given about the girl that made me wonder.

I personally couldn't ever use someone. I've been used before and it's not a nice feeling. I do my best to stay out of the situation as I just can't be dealing with the drama and as I'm still friends with his ex, it makes it an even more awkward situation.
 

derby1

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hes moved into her house, YOU NEVER MOVE IN A WOMANS HOUSE

its the equivalent of asking her to teach you how to read and write
 

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Hi gents.

This isn't something I've ever come across before. As some of you will know, I'm still quite new to the red pill and wanted to ask a question about one of my friends.

He's the same age as me (34) and has three children with his ex. They broke up about 6 months ago and he's just started dating someone. This particular woman is literally a hb3 or hb4 but has a lot of inheritance from her father when he passed a few years ago (tens of millions).

He's told me he doesn't find her even remotely attractive but he's using her financially as she keeps buying him things, new car, Tag watch, new iPhone to name a few of the lavish gifts so far. This girl is really desperate for someone to love her so has virtually no boundaries or standards for treatment. She is a friend and work colleague of his sister also, which he says made it easier "getting his foot in the door". I personally think it's a bit harsh as this could destroy the friendship between his sister and this girl.

So my question on this is -

Would you consider this an alpha move, to use a woman financially? He was always very beta before and really under the thumb with his now ex. He says that he's doing what he wants now and getting whatever he can get. He's also spinning other plates but this girl is now pretty much his girlfriend as he's moved in with her (rent free).
She is alpha lol
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Billtx49

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She's the pimp and he's the hoe. He's going to be enslaved even further if he's moving in with her.
Yep, he’s the hoe…
Seeking to be a kept man while having no feelings for her is the definition of that.
Quality people don’t use others for unlearned resources …
 

Lookatu

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If that guy is going to be moving in, he's probably going to get pegged at some point or thrown out. "put out, or get out"...

 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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jaymbrs

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You can't blame a guy for dating a woman who treats him like a king.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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