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She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

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Underage (by 4 weeks) girl added me on Facebook and now wants to meet.

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Moneytalks

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A girl (underage) added me on Facebook and MSN, now wants to meet
This girl is moving to London a few days before xmas from about 60 miles from here (no public transport to easily get me to where she is now, which sucks), and I still have my old Facebook location as London as I visit every few weeks to see my dad.

So she was going round on Facebook adding people because she doesn't know anyone down there (she's American which I guess makes her feel a bit of an outsider as well). She's constantly flirting with me and it's her that initiates sexual flirting on MSN!

I'm heading down to London after xmas to see my dad, and she wants to meet up. Normally I'd be well up for it, but she's 15 and doesn't turn 16 (legal) until the end of January. She suggested we go to her place as it's "more private" and because London was cold when she went in winter before (it really is cold there in January. I met my ex girlfriend there one January and it was freezing cold).

Thoughts?
Should I attempt to smash it? She said she's not a virgin so that makes me feel better about it.
Or should I steer clear until she's legal?

EDIT: I'm 18 by the way.

Moneytalks
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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thedude4242

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see her but dont do anything until the 4 weeks are done. WOW 16 is legal. if your only going to be there for a short time it might be good. we will see what everyone else says.
 
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Yeah, in London for 10 days this time and it'll be the last time until April, I should think.
 
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Seriously considering jailbait when there are millions of hot women running around reeks of desperation. In my book, no circumstances will ever justify risking 2 years in jail and destroying the rest of your life...

Just picture your business card 10 years from now: instead of Moneytalks, MBA/JD/MD/PhD/etc... it's gonna read "Moneytalks, sexual offender."

Imagin having to explain that to EVERY SINGLE woman you will meet for the next 40+ years.

All of a sudden that 15 y.o. poonani don't sound that good, does it?
 

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Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

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Yeah. I'm just gonna have to tell her I'm not going to London thus can't meet her. She said her friend just commited suicide so I don't really want to make things worse...

Plus, my business card is more likely to say

Moneytalks, Cpt (RN), BEng, MEng :D
 
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I've been kind of knowing I shouldn't go for a 15 year old but just wanted confirmation. I just sent her an email telling her I don't think it's a good idea to carry on talking as we are and even worse that we meet in January.

Any of you fellas in London for New Year's eve? :D
 
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I'm not 100% sure, but any activity, conversations of a sexual nature with someone under the age of consent is classified as grooming isn't it? Steer clear if you fancy your freedom.
 

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Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Drag it out for a month before doing anything with her. If you don't live in London and she's so far from there then that shouldn't be a problem at all.
 
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Yeah. She said (luckily) she agrees that we shouldn't meet in January and if we're still talking at all in February then go for it then. Though I think I'm gonna steer clear.
 
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realsmoothie said:
Any girl who just throws herself at people on Facebook is bad news.
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My thoughts exactly. This whole story just sounds weird.
 
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I don't know if they have a sex offender registry in London but I would steer clear from her until she's legal. Seeing that 16 is legal over there and you're just 18 then it shouldn't be too bad. I know in America people would look at you as a lame even though you're so close in age. Nobody wants to be that 18 year old that has his picture on the news because he messed with somebody a little younger than they'd prefer.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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