"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Turning a FWB into a GF
- Thread starter Crissco
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"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Crissco
Master Don Juan
LOL Thought about it, been whoring around for a while now. Want to settle down for a bit.Voice said:
Thats what i thought. She was in FL and was texting me all the time. We hung out tonight. I want to hang out a bit more to build more attraction so we can get more used to eachother
Scars
Master Don Juan
If you keep doing what you're doing now, she may hit a point where she grows strong feelings for you. This is usually how FWB scenarios end, one person gets too attached and it ruins everything. Looks like you beat her to it though, so she'll probably sense it now and start to withdraw her attention from you.
You should learn to control your emotions quickly and remain detached before you're left without a GF AND a FB.
-Scars
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Iceberg
Master Don Juan
Settling down comes naturally. You can't just force it.Crissco said:
But really, like the other guys said....why? You have a good thing...don't complicate it.
Anyways...
Cool. So she likes you.
So, let's see, you hang out 1+ times per week, you bang, she texts you all the time. Why do you need to have a label on this?
If you really like her, just keep doing what you're doing. She'll eventually ask you "What are we" or some other crap, and you'll have your precious "relationship" title.
You can't MAKE her your girlfriend. That's the important thing to know. Girls need to feel like they've won you. Not that you're winning them. So, keep treating her alright, and let her "win" you. Don't bring up relationship titles....that'll ruin it. Let the girl do that.
You need 3 things.
1. Her treating you like her man: looking out for you, caring for you, wanting to see you, giving you the affection and love, being the special girl in your life.
2. You treating her like your girl: looking out for her, taking care of it when she has a problem, being the man in her life.
3. Her not screwing around with other guys.
If these 3 conditions are being met, then it doesnt matter what you label it. If you have something special with this girl then it depends on these 3 conditions. It isnt that special something if she is a cold ***** with 50-50 interest in you, or if she has a habit of going to the club and kissing guys.
It is 3 conditions and not 4, we dont mention you being faithful to her because we are men. What you do behind closed doors is your business only, until she demands it otherwise, at which point it becomes her business also.
Iceberg
Master Don Juan
What Ease said.Ease said:
If she's treating you the way you want to be treated, then a label won't matter.
And if she were the type to cheat/lie/steal, then the label won't matter either.
It all comes down to how you treat each other. Not what you call it.
TheAsianLoverReturns
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You should be thinking how do I add 2 more FWB.
Crissco
Master Don Juan
I already have 3 FWB and 2 more potentials bro.TheAsianLoverReturns said:
She sometimes treats me the way I want to be treated, sometimes no. Its not her, its my own insecurity's on this part. Shes a big push/pull
er though, likes to play games, but I can see through it all and play it right back.
Im thinking of switching things up, going out more often, having fun overall instead of staying inside and fooling around every time.
“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
TheAsianLoverReturns
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I doubt that, if that was the case, you wouldn't be dreaming about how to turn your f*ck buddy into a girlfriend.Crissco said:
You're the woman in the relationship.
What I learnt, and what I've known all along in fact is that the woman has to make that decision. You just keep enjoying the sex and keep your emotions and attachment in check.
I wrote more about this subject here...
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=180108
Crissco
Master Don Juan
You have always been honest and big help, wanted to say thanks.Jariel said:
I wanted to plan something for tomorrow, on Friday to actually go out, she kept saying IDK yet. So I told her, if you dont know im going to make other plans.
Her actions of texting me, wanting me def speak louder, but shouldn't she want to hang out more often?
I think it comes down to her not wanting to get to attached because of trust issues. I think my best bet is to cut contact for a bit and have her miss what she had.
She just responded with: K
Not pissed but a bit disappointing
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
Instead make plans for Monday and break it a few hours before it... It's hard to do but trust me it works like a charm to make her less secure and more interested...