"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Turning a FWB into a GF

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We hang out once a week, been FWB for a while. We usually just hangout in my room and screw around.




Any tips on how to do this?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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create a lil distance..dont always be available for "screwing around". if she starts missing you she might develop feelings for you then you are in. dont ever be the first one to ask for a serious relationship let her ask you. if she isnt asking you means she doesnt have feelings
 

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Why ruin a wonderful thing?
LOL Thought about it, been whoring around for a while now. Want to settle down for a bit.

create a lil distance..dont always be available for "screwing around". if she starts missing you she might develop feelings for you then you are in. dont ever be the first one to ask for a serious relationship let her ask you. if she isnt asking you means she doesnt have feelings
Thats what i thought. She was in FL and was texting me all the time. We hung out tonight. I want to hang out a bit more to build more attraction so we can get more used to eachother
 

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First question would be, why the hell would you want to do that?

If you keep doing what you're doing now, she may hit a point where she grows strong feelings for you. This is usually how FWB scenarios end, one person gets too attached and it ruins everything. Looks like you beat her to it though, so she'll probably sense it now and start to withdraw her attention from you.

You should learn to control your emotions quickly and remain detached before you're left without a GF AND a FB.

-Scars
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Crissco said:
LOL Thought about it, been whoring around for a while now. Want to settle down for a bit.
Settling down comes naturally. You can't just force it.

But really, like the other guys said....why? You have a good thing...don't complicate it.

Anyways...

Thats what i thought. She was in FL and was texting me all the time. We hung out tonight. I want to hang out a bit more to build more attraction so we can get more used to eachother
Cool. So she likes you.

So, let's see, you hang out 1+ times per week, you bang, she texts you all the time. Why do you need to have a label on this?

If you really like her, just keep doing what you're doing. She'll eventually ask you "What are we" or some other crap, and you'll have your precious "relationship" title.

You can't MAKE her your girlfriend. That's the important thing to know. Girls need to feel like they've won you. Not that you're winning them. So, keep treating her alright, and let her "win" you. Don't bring up relationship titles....that'll ruin it. Let the girl do that.
 

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Labels is something that girls need.

You need 3 things.

1. Her treating you like her man: looking out for you, caring for you, wanting to see you, giving you the affection and love, being the special girl in your life.

2. You treating her like your girl: looking out for her, taking care of it when she has a problem, being the man in her life.

3. Her not screwing around with other guys.


If these 3 conditions are being met, then it doesnt matter what you label it. If you have something special with this girl then it depends on these 3 conditions. It isnt that special something if she is a cold ***** with 50-50 interest in you, or if she has a habit of going to the club and kissing guys.

It is 3 conditions and not 4, we dont mention you being faithful to her because we are men. What you do behind closed doors is your business only, until she demands it otherwise, at which point it becomes her business also.
 

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Ease said:
Labels is something that girls need.

You need 3 things.

1. Her treating you like her man: looking out for you, caring for you, wanting to see you, giving you the affection and love, being the special girl in your life.

2. You treating her like your girl: looking out for her, taking care of it when she has a problem, being the man in her life.

3. Her not screwing around with other guys.


If these 3 conditions are being met, then it doesnt matter what you label it. If you have something special with this girl then it depends on these 3 conditions. It isnt that special something if she is a cold ***** with 50-50 interest in you, or if she has a habit of going to the club and kissing guys.

It is 3 conditions and not 4, we dont mention you being faithful to her because we are men. What you do behind closed doors is your business only, until she demands it otherwise, at which point it becomes her business also.
What Ease said.

If she's treating you the way you want to be treated, then a label won't matter.

And if she were the type to cheat/lie/steal, then the label won't matter either.

It all comes down to how you treat each other. Not what you call it.
 

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TheAsianLoverReturns said:
What's wrong with you? That's the woman's job.

You should be thinking how do I add 2 more FWB.
I already have 3 FWB and 2 more potentials bro.

What Ease said.

If she's treating you the way you want to be treated, then a label won't matter.

And if she were the type to cheat/lie/steal, then the label won't matter either.

It all comes down to how you treat each other. Not what you call it.
She sometimes treats me the way I want to be treated, sometimes no. Its not her, its my own insecurity's on this part. Shes a big push/pull
er though, likes to play games, but I can see through it all and play it right back.

Im thinking of switching things up, going out more often, having fun overall instead of staying inside and fooling around every time.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Crissco said:
I already have 3 FWB and 2 more potentials bro.



She sometimes treats me the way I want to be treated, sometimes no. Its not her, its my own insecurity's on this part. Shes a big push/pull
er though, likes to play games, but I can see through it all and play it right back.

Im thinking of switching things up, going out more often, having fun overall instead of staying inside and fooling around every time.
I doubt that, if that was the case, you wouldn't be dreaming about how to turn your f*ck buddy into a girlfriend.

You're the woman in the relationship.
 

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TheAsianLoverReturns said:
I doubt that, if that was the case, you wouldn't be dreaming about how to turn your f*ck buddy into a girlfriend.

You're the woman in the relationship.
Im the last person who would lie bro, I really do have 3 FWB..

This girls a gamer, shes got my head, simple as that.
 

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I ruined things with my last FWB by trying to turn it into more. I admit, I really liked her and we'd had some great times together both in and out of the bedroom, so I naturally thought we would be good in a relationship.

What I learnt, and what I've known all along in fact is that the woman has to make that decision. You just keep enjoying the sex and keep your emotions and attachment in check.

I wrote more about this subject here...

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=180108
 

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Jariel said:
I ruined things with my last FWB by trying to turn it into more. I admit, I really liked her and we'd had some great times together both in and out of the bedroom, so I naturally thought we would be good in a relationship.

What I learnt, and what I've known all along in fact is that the woman has to make that decision. You just keep enjoying the sex and keep your emotions and attachment in check.

I wrote more about this subject here...

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=180108
You have always been honest and big help, wanted to say thanks.

I wanted to plan something for tomorrow, on Friday to actually go out, she kept saying IDK yet. So I told her, if you dont know im going to make other plans.

Her actions of texting me, wanting me def speak louder, but shouldn't she want to hang out more often?

I think it comes down to her not wanting to get to attached because of trust issues. I think my best bet is to cut contact for a bit and have her miss what she had.

She just responded with: K

Not pissed but a bit disappointing
 
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Just texted me a couple of hours ago wanting to hang out on Monday instead. Not sure if i should say...Let me check my schedule like she basically did or just go and hang out.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Nobody has a Monday schedule... She will see through that...

Instead make plans for Monday and break it a few hours before it... It's hard to do but trust me it works like a charm to make her less secure and more interested...
 

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Nobody has a Monday schedule... She will see through that...

Instead make plans for Monday and break it a few hours before it... It's hard to do but trust me it works like a charm to make her less secure and more interested...
That might just work bro.
 
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