"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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trying too hard?

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Is it true when you constantly go searching for "love" or for "someone" it never comes to you? i feel like the more i try the less results im getting...

I have a HB8 who i really like and she likes me, we've never met but we text alot but i am always initiating contact with her.....we talk about how much we like each other and sextext alot but when ever i arrange to meet up i dont know if shes just shy or nervous but she never gets back to me?
i dont know what to do? im always initiating contact every 2 days and if i dont contact her i wont hear from her in ages....

What should i do?
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Stop contacting her she is wasting your time. Just using you for the attention you give her. If and when she contacts you, politely tell her if she doesnt want to meet you in person, then no more texting.
 

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ink_wizard said:
Is it true when you constantly go searching for "love" or for "someone" it never comes to you? i feel like the more i try the less results im getting...

I have a HB8 who i really like and she likes me, we've never met but we text alot but i am always initiating contact with her.....we talk about how much we like each other and sextext alot but when ever i arrange to meet up i dont know if shes just shy or nervous but she never gets back to me?
i dont know what to do? im always initiating contact every 2 days and if i dont contact her i wont hear from her in ages....

What should i do?

Seriously? When are you guys going to learn?

is she genuinely interested? or just using me for ego boost?
How can a person be genuinely interested if you've never met?

Excuse my bluntness, but I'm losing my patience for these types of situations
 

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This has got to be a joke?!
You're asking for advice on a forum about a girl you've never met?!
Has it actually come to this?!
Man the f*ck up, go meet some girls in real life and stop wasting your time with Internet girls.
Unbelievable
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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This has got to be a joke?!
You're asking for advice on a forum about a girl you've never met?!
Has it actually come to this?!
Man the f*ck up, go meet some girls in real life and stop wasting your time with Internet girls.
Unbelievable
 

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cola said:
Stop contacting her she is wasting your time. Just using you for the attention you give her. If and when she contacts you, politely tell her if she doesnt want to meet you in person, then no more texting.
I agree completely.

I've been in this situation many times before. Turns out they were just using me for attention whenever their husbands, boyfriends or some other guy wasn't showing them enough. I had a lot of phone/text sex and they'd promise we'd get together and fvck, but there was always some last minute excuse and they'd flake out.
 

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but i really do want to date this chick/sleep with her but im unsure on how to escalate this further....considering im always the 1 that has to text first and initiate meeting to which we havent done yet...

i dont want to lose her but i do feel like its an attention thing with her...
 

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ink_wizard said:
but i really do want to date this chick/sleep with her but im unsure on how to escalate this further....considering im always the 1 that has to text first and initiate meeting to which we havent done yet...

i dont want to lose her but i do feel like its an attention thing with her...
Lose her? You never had her.
 

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My thoughts exactly.

hat7069 said:
as a friend/texting buddy, at best.
Has she shown (not said) otherwise??
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I'm beginning to wonder which one of you really desires the attention

She likes sexting you (as do a lot of females once you get them there) because it excites her and she gets off to that. or worse, it makes her so h0rny that she hits up her FWB. You are warming her up for someone else bro. do you want that??

Remember, she has to invest in you - using her time and/or effort and/or money - for her to be worthy of your time.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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ink_wizard said:
I have a HB8 who i really like and she likes me, we've never met ...i wont hear from her in ages....What should i do?
AFC of the month!
 

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When you try too hard you think too much.

Even if you're trying to be that attractive male
It must look as if you're not trying, it must look 100% natural, even the slightest bit of thought or awkwardness or non-sincererness and you've lost it, you need to seem completely natural, even if you're thinking like a machine. It must look 100% natural.
 
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