"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Trying not to repeat the past

BreezyB84

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Haven't really posted here in a while... really just been out spinning plates and trying not to fall in love. Seriously..I am enjoying life and really enjoying women each chance i get. The reason i joined the forum was bc I was too nice to a girl.. it's helped me immensely but now i find myself in a situation I don't want to be in..

It's really not that serious... i like this girl and we made a movie date... I know.. not the best date idea but we both wanted to see "Beirut"... I haven't been on a real date in quite a while but I remember the last time I did, I ended up here because I didn't make a move lol... so I have 2 question really..

1. Can I pull off making a move on a dinner and movie date without waiting till the last minute or very end of the night?

2. How important is it to make a move on a woman on dates and why is it so essential??

I apologize if my question sounds stupid.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Poonstra

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1. Can I pull off making a move on a dinner and movie date without waiting till the last minute or very end of the night?
If by make a move you mean grab her tits, no. If you mean kino her, yes.

2. How important is it to make a move on a woman on dates and why is it so essential??
If you wait to long to make a move you are not sexual. If she wants a non sexual interaction she can hang with her (girl)friends or family.
 

Toddz

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There are no rules, so get that out of your head. I can already tell that you are thinking too much about the outcome. This will lead to you analyzing every little moment before, during, and after the date. You won't be at ease, in the moment, and relaxed.

My best advice is to just enjoy yourself and don't worry about making a move. Just let that happen naturally. Flirt, laugh, tease her, and see if she gives off an IOI's and flirts back. Her signals and body language will tell you everything.
 

BreezyB84

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Thank you brothers. I appreciate the input. Trying not to overtone it.
 

BreezyB84

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Good news is that she flaked.. said she hurt her leg at a charity walk... this was 3 hours before the date.. on to the next.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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