"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Trying not to repeat the past

BreezyB84

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Haven't really posted here in a while... really just been out spinning plates and trying not to fall in love. Seriously..I am enjoying life and really enjoying women each chance i get. The reason i joined the forum was bc I was too nice to a girl.. it's helped me immensely but now i find myself in a situation I don't want to be in..

It's really not that serious... i like this girl and we made a movie date... I know.. not the best date idea but we both wanted to see "Beirut"... I haven't been on a real date in quite a while but I remember the last time I did, I ended up here because I didn't make a move lol... so I have 2 question really..

1. Can I pull off making a move on a dinner and movie date without waiting till the last minute or very end of the night?

2. How important is it to make a move on a woman on dates and why is it so essential??

I apologize if my question sounds stupid.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Poonstra

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1. Can I pull off making a move on a dinner and movie date without waiting till the last minute or very end of the night?
If by make a move you mean grab her tits, no. If you mean kino her, yes.

2. How important is it to make a move on a woman on dates and why is it so essential??
If you wait to long to make a move you are not sexual. If she wants a non sexual interaction she can hang with her (girl)friends or family.
 

Toddz

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There are no rules, so get that out of your head. I can already tell that you are thinking too much about the outcome. This will lead to you analyzing every little moment before, during, and after the date. You won't be at ease, in the moment, and relaxed.

My best advice is to just enjoy yourself and don't worry about making a move. Just let that happen naturally. Flirt, laugh, tease her, and see if she gives off an IOI's and flirts back. Her signals and body language will tell you everything.
 

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Thank you brothers. I appreciate the input. Trying not to overtone it.
 

BreezyB84

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Good news is that she flaked.. said she hurt her leg at a charity walk... this was 3 hours before the date.. on to the next.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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