Trump is so stupid that he doesn't realize that folks are making fun of him by meming him into Nero

[zekko]

I don't think I've ever seen the level of hate directed at one politician as I've seen directed at Trump. While being so open about it at the same time. I was just reading a biography where the author takes a shot at Trump, and it wasn't related to the topic at all.

It wouldn't surprise me at all to see Trump lose the upcoming election. But then again, I didn't think he had any chance of winning the last one, because I had never seen the polls be so wrong in the modern era. Obviously I was dead wrong there.

 

[zekko]

As for the election, with anything else, use ACTIONS to recognize the likely outcome. NOT words.

Polls are words. Signs in lawns are action.
TV is just words, rally attendances are action.

Makes sense. But like I had said, up until then I had never seen the polls be that wrong before when it came to a presidential election. It was the modern version of Dewey Beats Truman. But I had figured modern polling techniques had improved to the point where we wouldn't see something like that again.

The other more recent example I can think of is when the networks were forecasting Florida for Al Gore in 2000, but George W Bush ended up winning it. The thing that both examples have in common is that the winner ended up losing the popular vote.

Nixon used to talk about the silent majority. Perhaps the left and the media have demonized conservatives so much that they will not want to admit to a surveyor who they actually voted for, or are intending to vote for.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Do men actually respond to direct questions like this?

I'm not saying this to be a smart azz, but if my life depended on the correct answer.... I'd nearly swear that EyeBRollin is a female that eithe identifies as a man or pretends to be one - in hopes to be taken more seriously.

^^^^ Another Trump supporter having to stoop to insults instead of putting a coherent thought together.

 

[logicallefty]

Given that we all (mostly) have now caught on to the fake news industry, it makes sense to question the polls themselves.


If you do a search looking for "poll oversampling trump", or substitute trump for clinton, you will find that the easy way to rig polls is to just oversample the desired group.

Add a dash of fake news and a shocking surprise of an election.....and it all falls together neatly like a little puzzle. The polls were junk and the fake news pushed it.

Exactly. Polls are worthless. Go do polls of 100 people at the bus stop in front of the welfare office. And go do 100 in the parking lot of an NRA event. It is what it is, which is UNRELIABLE.

 

[Black Widow Void]

^^^^ Another Trump supporter having to stoop to insults instead of putting a coherent thought together.

No insult intended with my above observation.
Seriously.... reading your rebuttals, gives off this visual of a woman with her hand on her hip and her index finger extended out.

Again, no veiled insult intended, I'm simply speaking my thoughts.
I'm more convinced that you are a woman, that is posting as if you are man... than actually one.

 

[EyeBRollin]

No insult intended with my above observation.
Seriously.... reading your rebuttals, gives off this visual of a woman with her hand on her hip and her index finger extended out.

Again, no veiled insult intended, I'm simply speaking my thoughts.
I'm more convinced that you are a woman, that is posting as if you are man... than actually one.

That’s an ad hominem. You have nothing substantive to add to this discussion.

 

[Black Widow Void]

Nixon used to talk about the silent majority. Perhaps the left and the media have demonized conservatives so much that they will not want to admit to a surveyor who they actually voted for, or are intending to vote for.

I believe there's a lot of truth in this analogy.
Back in 1972, I was too young to vote, but was pulling for McGovern. I also remember Nixon using the "silent majority" phrase.

On a personal note, I've been a liberal all of my life, but liberals today... seem to believe that if someone is a conservative, they are against equality for women, gays or other races.
Because Trump's policies have been more liberal than any other Republican president, I'm probably switching sides and voting for him in 2020.
With the liberal climate, currently adopting dogmatic views and frothing at the mouth (the posting right above this one is just one example) I suppose that I can be counted (off the internet) as part of the "silent" (and perhaps) "majority."

 

[EyeBRollin]

I believe there's a lot of truth in this analogy.
Back in 1972, I was too young to vote, but was pulling for McGovern. I also remember Nixon using the "silent majority" phrase.

Republicans have only won the popular vote once in the last 30 years. What silent majority?

liberals today... seem to believe that if someone is a conservative, they are against equality for women, gays or other races.

They are.

Because Trump's policies have been more liberal than any other Republican president,

That’s another lie. Fascist judges, tax cuts for the wealthy, science denial, locking up brown people in cages like animals. His conservative street cred is bona fide.

 

[Black Widow Void]

@EyeBRollin

I accuse you of being a female that is posting under the guise of a man.

Are you prepared to prove me wrong?
You can do so, by answering my direct questions with direct answers (not sidestepping, diverting or changing the subject).

My first direct question is; are you willing and capable of answering my next followup post with direct answers?

The above is a direct question, therefor; as a man (if actually you are one, of course) you are only obligated to respond with either
"yes" or "no."

 

[EyeBRollin]

You need more Candice Owens and less Huffington Post.

She’s a babe. Piping hot.

 

[EyeBRollin]

@EyeBRollin

I accuse you of being a female that is posting under the guise of a man.

Are you prepared to prove me wrong?
You can do so, by answering my direct questions with direct answers (not sidestepping, diverting or changing the subject).

My first direct question is; are you willing and capable of answering my next followup post with direct answers?

The above is a direct question, therefor; as a man (if actually you are one, of course) you are only obligated to respond with either
"yes" or "no."

There you go again focusing on me instead of the topic at hand. Trumps incompetence crashed the stock market. He failed to contain the virus. What are your thoughts on that?

 

[Black Widow Void]

There you go again focusing on me instead of the topic at hand. Trumps incompetence crashed the stock market. He failed to contain the virus. What are your thoughts on that?

Admit it.

Your above follow up response, further validates my claim that you are a woman posting as if you are a man.

Admit it.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Admit it.

Your above follow up response, further validates my claim that you are a woman posting as if you are a man.

Admit it.

“I love the poorly educated!”

 

[MatureDJ]

@MatureDJ is THIS the photo / tweet you are talking about and calling Trump clueless for?

View attachment 3734

YES

 

[MatureDJ]

Who suggested to stop having elections????

Republicans advocate auditing elections and voter rolls, but somehow that seems unacceptable in a Democracy (to Democrats at least).

The "auditing" of voter rolls is to do things that have proven to be more difficult for Democratic voters than Republican voters. The only valid audit that there should be is to see if someone has registered to vote somewhere else, has given up his citizenship, in jail, or has died. Sending a postcard (that could be "lost" in the mail, ahem) is an improper way to audit.

Now, on this same subject, I do agree with voter ID - BUT, this ID would need to be something that could be garnered completely free of charge (i.e., no "poll tax" as proscribed in the Constitution). I agree that Dems who are against voter ID are wrong here, and should be willing to accept it IF there is such a system with a free ID. Oh, and along with that, a way for someone who has temporarily lost his voter ID to do a presumptive vote that could be checked if the election were close enough.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Now, on this same subject, I do agree with voter ID - BUT, this ID would need to be something that could be garnered completely free of charge (i.e., no "poll tax" as proscribed in the Constitution). I agree that Dems who are against voter ID are wrong here, and should be willing to accept it IF there is such a system with a free ID. Oh, and along with that, a way for someone who has temporarily lost his voter ID to do a presumptive vote that could be checked if the election were close enough.

Voter ID is just Republican suppressing the vote. What you suggested already exists; it’s called a provisional ballot. Voter ID will never be free because the intent has nothing to do with identity. Identity and eligibility are already verified at voter registration. And if identity is so important we would have to completely do away with absentee ballots. Not a peep from Republicans regarding vote by mail.

 

[EyeBRollin]

The "auditing" of voter rolls is to do things that have proven to be more difficult for Democratic voters than Republican voters. The only valid audit that there should be is to see if someone has registered to vote somewhere else, has given up his citizenship, in jail, or has died. Sending a postcard (that could be "lost" in the mail, ahem) is an improper way to audit.

Republicans started this push for Voter ID laws the minute after a black guy became President. In the conservative brain there is just no way it can happen. A black guy can’t be a legitimate President because it upsets their moral hierarchy.

 

[Alvafe]

Voter ID is just Republican suppressing the vote. What you suggested already exists; it’s called a provisional ballot. Voter ID will never be free because the intent has nothing to do with identity. Identity and eligibility are already verified at voter registration. And if identity is so important we would have to completely do away with absentee ballots. Not a peep from Republicans regarding vote by mail.

funny that is what socialists like, make ID for everyone and make voting a forced act, you can't opt out, unless you pay a fine, since where I live you are forced to vote and you have your ID with you plus know where you was supose to vote, with is told you when you register to be able to vote.

a side note, you should enver trust polls, even on my country the polls told us the winner would be the left candidate, but in the end he lost, even though I don't trust the voting system and I belive it was rigged, so even with that he lost

 

[EyeBRollin]

If identity and eligibility are verified at voter registration, then how did those illegals vote?

Fraudulent documentation.

 

[EyeBRollin]

funny that is what socialists like, make ID for everyone and make voting a forced act, you can't opt out, unless you pay a fine, since where I live you are forced to vote and you have your ID with you plus know where you was supose to vote, with is told you when you register to be able to vote.

That will never happen in the US. Republicans can only win if fewer people vote. Taxes cuts for the wealthy just isn’t a popular platform.