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Troubling new trend: women on dating apps demand dinner dates

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The Bradd Pitt/Drake analogy has to die already, I get it I get it but let's be realastic 90% of men will never be Brad Pitt...
The point is to star focusing on being the best versions of ourselves: Not even Brad Pitt has always been Brad Pitt

Note how different the kid in '87 is from the man who became America's heart-throb in the late 90s. He clearly worked hard to bulk up what was originally a slender frame + Deepen a voice that's naturally a high pitched braying

EVERY man comes into the world with attributes appealing, non-descript, and unappealing. We all have the power to alter or/and work with these same attributes + Add new ones, whenever this is practical
 
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The question is not whether you can but whether you should.
It’s a matter of choice. If I were single, I’d likely go on some dinner dates.
 

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The point is to star focusing on being the best versions of ourselves: Not even Brad Pitt has always been Brad Pitt

Note how different the kid in '87 is from the man who became America's heart-throb in the late 90s. He clearly worked hard to bulk up what was originally a slender frame + Deepen a voice that's naturally a high pitched braying

EVERY man comes into the world with attributes appealing, non-descript, and unappealing. We all have the power to alter or/and work with these same attributes + Add new ones, whenever this is practical
He, Will Smith, Jonny Depp, Tom Brady, Ben Affleck, and other “1% HVM’s” were all punked by their women. These aren’t people to focus on at all.
 

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If Brad Pitt invited a girl to Applebee's happy hour, do you think she would scoff at him and demand Ruth Chris steak house?
Brad Pitt is an alcoholic who married a crazy woman who made him adopt a kid from just about every country in Africa and then dumped his @ss. Hardly an example of success with women.
 

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He, Will Smith, Jonny Depp, Tom Brady, Ben Affleck, and other “1% HVM’s” were all punked by their women
Yeah, there are no certainties in life. You can chug as many Red and Gold Pills as you can stomach, and still be blindsided

Pre-late 2015, NO ONE was walking around demanding a f-cking guarantee that they'll never again be wounded by a lover or SO in some way. Why we all cling to this fantasy("I can't put myself out there, UNTIL the chances of my being hurt are all but non-existent. Even though no one in the history of our species has ever been that special")continues to perplex me
 

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I recently talked with a girl on a dating app and she expected me to go on the other side of the city to pick her up ( big city ) which would take me like 1h, when I told her that it is a big ask she replied that “ my future partner is a provider and a protector “. I replied with “aha”
If she was some sort of unicorn, I might agree with her. If she's the average ran through woman who has already been pumped & ghosted, I can only wish her good luck (which Im guessing its kind of what you did at that point)
 

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I haven't noticed women demanding dinner dates per se. I have noticed women more and more not wanting to go get a drink as a first date. But they seem to be young 20s that are into this mindset. Late 20s+ are still good with a drinks date for a 1st date.

Regardless, if you don't like the vibe just tell her to walk. I agree that a dinner date is a big ask for a 1st UNLESS she is going to pay for her own.
 

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Female dating influencers / coaches are popping up more and more especially on TikTok where a lot of Gen Z and Younger Millennial women hang out

If you are single its worth following a few just to get an idea of the rhetoric and get ahead of the expectations that are being embedded

The dinner thing is not new its been around for years its just becoming more common because mid tier women are taking advice from higher tiers

The issue is its ok for an 8 or a 9 to demand dinner she likely has enough leverage in her attractiveness to get men to comply

A 6 or a 7 doesn't really have the same bargaining power and a lot of guys won't be prepared to over invest which will cause yet more friction and problems for online dating and swipe apps
 

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This was my experience in Colombia. They all just want free dinner!!!!!!!
 

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They can bark, if they so choose. We don't have to capitulate to them
Who is we !?! there is you and there is the rest of the male population lol

Go to a bar on a Saturday night and watch for a couple of hours there will be guys bending over backwards for pu$$y

its 100x worse on swipe apps too because theres so many men on them
 

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Who is we !?! there is you and there is the rest of the male population lol

Go to a bar on a Saturday night and watch for a couple of hours there will be guys bending over backwards for pu$$y

its 100x worse on swipe apps too because theres so many men on them
Baron doesn't capitulate to women. He Lecters them.
 

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Who is we !?! there is you and there is the rest of the male population lol

Go to a bar on a Saturday night and watch for a couple of hours there will be guys bending over backwards for pu$$y
Our mission here at SS isn't just personal development, but to also enlighten every other man who's receptive as to the facts of life, is it not?

Fewer and fewer guys behaving in so d-c-less a fashion just might = Society holding men in a much higher regard than has been the case for the last decade
 

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Instead of being confrontational why not simply redirect and say, that’s fun but I really think activity adds to the experience of a first date,how do you feel about (insert active date here)
 

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You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Female dating influencers / coaches are popping up more and more especially on TikTok where a lot of Gen Z and Younger Millennial women hang out

If you are single its worth following a few just to get an idea of the rhetoric and get ahead of the expectations that are being embedded

The dinner thing is not new its been around for years its just becoming more common because mid tier women are taking advice from higher tiers

The issue is its ok for an 8 or a 9 to demand dinner she likely has enough leverage in her attractiveness to get men to comply

A 6 or a 7 doesn't really have the same bargaining power and a lot of guys won't be prepared to over invest which will cause yet more friction and problems for online dating and swipe apps
not even if she is a perfect 10+ I do not think it makes too much sense a dinner date, because mainly you do not know if it is going to go well or not

would be weird to actually realize that the date does not go well, but you still have to stay another 30-60 minutes more to finish whatever you ordered. For both of you

the issue with dinner as a first date is generally a bad idea, because none of you actually know if you gonna like each other
 
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If she was some sort of unicorn, I might agree with her. If she's the average ran through woman who has already been pumped & ghosted, I can only wish her good luck (which Im guessing its kind of what you did at that point)
told her that I get her point of view, just that it would be unnatural to go and pick her up from the other side of city and go together to a different part of it,

And that if her future partner would do unnatural things, I also expect that my future partner will not put me through things that are a big stretch and let me put my energy towards things are good for both

needless to say, she did not responded after haha

but yeah, I agree with you, these type of unnatural requests come from trauma. Most likely she had bad experiences with guys and to not feel stupid, now demands grand gestures to feel that she is “worth it”. For sure it is not about the guy, but about her. Quite egotistical situation
 

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The only advice you need is that you can not fix a damaged woman. Women who want to put you through hoops right from the start, are just telling men what is expected to since they know they are pains in the @ss to date.

Rather than 'troubling' I find this refreshing. These women are letting you know up front what they expect. Good! Move on, if they all start doing this, Good! Get off the dating app.
 

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:rofl: Fixed that.

I considered whether it might have something to do with me being older now (early 40's) or my occupation, but like I said, this wasn't the case even a couple of years ago. Perhaps it's more of a local trend.

EDIT: maybe not so local after all.

Depends.
What’s the age range of these women and are they hot?

If they younger and fit , they’ll try to score a dinner date off an older successful looking guy, for sure.

maybe it’s just getting older and it coming with the territory now with an age gap.
 

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Brad Pitt is an alcoholic who married a crazy woman who made him adopt a kid from just about every country in Africa and then dumped his @ss. Hardly an example of success with women.
Brad Pitt isn't crying about women demanding dinner dates and other men everyday though.
 
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