Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
who girls what the girl thinks at that point? no point in a fragile ego..Wisconsin144 said:I agree that it just sounds like a waste of time. You'll seem like a douche and be that annoying guy. Best thing to do is find a new girl with a higher interest level. Ghost the girl that seems uninterested. Why troll, what are we? 15?
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
If you don't care what she thinks why on earth would you send her anything least of all your precious attention? Just shows you've got nothing better to do whilst she's probably getting boned by someone she is interested in.applegoo said:who girls what the girl thinks at that point? no point in a fragile ego..
:-) said:If you don't care what she thinks why on earth would you send her anything least of all your precious attention? Just shows you've got nothing better to do whilst she's probably getting boned by someone she is interested in.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
lol.applegoo said:just send anything, say, hey sexy b1tch and see if they reply, who cares if they don't. send a mass text to a bunch of girls in your phone list who you haven't seen in a while and just say hey sexy b1tch and see who replies
who cares what she thinks? Lol...it's just following an old leadWisconsin144 said:It's not that we're talking about a fragile ego. We're saying why say anything to her. She's not interested and if you keep sending her things all she's seeing is someone who is desperate for her attention and with nothing better to do in their life, pretty sad if you ask me.
Maintaining self-worth and dignity I would say.applegoo said:Your reply is all about protecting a fragile ego..
Yes. Anyway this thread was a bad idea and against what we have learned here.Maintaining self-worth and dignity I would say.
Again, if your dignity and self-worth is based on what some dumb chick thinks of you, that's a problem, IMO. I don't share that sentiment and if a girl ignores my text or something, it doesn't bother me or make me feel bad about myself. There's just no way we are gonna look at this the same.:-) said:Maintaining self-worth and dignity I would say.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
By texting a girl who flat out rejected you are lowering your self-worht and implying you don't respect yourself.applegoo said:Again, if your dignity and self-worth is based on what some dumb chick thinks of you, that's a problem, IMO. I don't share that sentiment and if a girl ignores my text or something, it doesn't bother me or make me feel bad about myself.
Suspens said:By texting a girl who flat out rejected you are lowering your self-worht and implying you don't respect yourself.
But I agree with you. If your communication just fizzled out or she just ignored a few of your texts in the past and no disrespect was involved, then that would be okay.
Were they from another country? :crackup: :crackup:prison/con.net said:You're looking in the wrong places, guys. I found out that one I was dating had another guy. She was beautiful and smart, and 35 years my junior, but so is the one who replaced her (a week after i dumped the first one). All that it took was run an ad on a dating site and I was buried in nurses, etc. who wanted to marry me, based upon one pic and a few emails.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.