You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
SHUT THE FVCK UP.teacha said:I'm so sick of all this negativity, all I see is bitter men bitching about everything wrong with nightlife today. instead of complaining, making excuses and blaming other people for your own shortcomings why not work towards improving yourself in all aspects of your life. Stop bitching and do something about it, GO HARD OR GO HOME! Stop wishing things were easier, wish you were better.
If you have time to whine and complain about something then you have the time to do something about it.
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Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
This.Jitterbug said:Btw on the PUA methods & routines, the vast majority of them are heavily verbal and would not work in a super loud club.
the only reason everyone here agrees on these so-called observations is because you are all seeing it from one point-of-view: the bottom of the food-chain. You are all coming up with silly excuses as to why you aint getting any action in clubs to make yourselves feel better but the truth is you can't stand the fvcking competition. Nobody is going to make it any easier for you but yourself. Constantly work on yourself (physically, financially, mentally, socially, spiritually) and everything will fall into place, this isn't rocket science, if you want hot girls then get your ass in shape. You could have all the confidence in the world but if you are fat/skinny some girls won't even give you the time of day.The Mad Ghost said:SHUT THE FVCK UP.
Nobody is bytching, it's new observations. Stop actig like you've seen or had any different. Everybody here agrees on these observations. Now, you come out with this cvck of shyt? Nobody is wishing for things to be better, we're listing down the modern day flaws in clubs. If you're doing the damn thing, then get your buddies to post some infield-footage of you in the club.
I don't know what northern city you live in (NYC, perhaps?), but I know that the clubs favor the women and not the men unless they got money. Club owners know that guys go to clubs a lot in the hopes of meeting chicks, so they let the ladies drink for free and free cover charge. They charge men 20 bucks cover charge and 5 bucks for drinks. 3 bucks for a soda too!spinaroonie said:This.
This.
A few years back as a student I used to hit up a lounge frequented by a lot of college kids. Back then, it was a good venue to run game with good grinding music.
I returned there a few weeks ago for the first time in years. The whole venue had been renovated. More private booths and fewer open standing spaces outside the dance floor, making it logistically harder to open sets. In the past, the music - though loud - was still acceptable enough to make conversation. This time the volume was so deafening all through the lounge that running verbal-oriented PUA/Mystery Method style game was next to impossible. The speakers were practically spitting static as they could barely handle the decibel levels.
We spent all our night in the smoking patio. Good place to pick up, but I live in a cold, northern city so this won't be feasible for a while.
I've noticed this in all the venues in my area. Nearly all the posters here from various cities agree. It's a near-universal trend. WTF is going on?
I suspect it's this - club owners run clubs to make money, not get you laid. So they crank up the music, and people buy more alcohol to cope with the awkwardness of shouting in conversation. At that point, only primal modes of communication are feasible - which alcohol promotes. Profit.
At some point a breaking point may be reached when guys start boycotting clubs. But (more likely) guys are horny and will continue to hit the clubs in the vain hope of getting some ass. And for many guys, it's the only outlet for meeting women.
Dude, how many girls have you taken home from a club in the last 6 months?teacha said:the only reason everyone here agrees on these so-called observations is because you are all seeing it from one point-of-view: the bottom of the food-chain. You are all coming up with silly excuses as to why you aint getting any action in clubs to make yourselves feel better but the truth is you can't stand the fvcking competition. Nobody is going to make it any easier for you but yourself. Constantly work on yourself (physically, financially, mentally, socially, spiritually) and everything will fall into place, this isn't rocket science, if you want hot girls then get your ass in shape. You could have all the confidence in the world but if you are fat/skinny some girls won't even give you the time of day.
Some of you guys on here got this "game is all" mentality and think GAME alone is enough to get you laid with the hottest girls you desire. Sure, you may land a hotbabe in your bed but your results are gonna be few and far between unless you improve all the other aspects of your life.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Well played. Yes, in the mindset of today's woman every guy is a creep/creepy/creeper. It's a shaming tactic to discourage undesirable guys from approaching.Razor Sharp said:I opened a speed walker last week by mocking her. I walked right next to her without saying a word and proceeded to out-pace her, occasionally pulling back and letting her go past me, before catching up and passing her again. Each time I did I made sure to exaggerate her strut and move my hips the way she did, clearly poking fun. We stopped at a light and I didn't look at her till it was about to turn green, kinda how drag racers do before you wave the checkered flag. She finally started laughing and slowed her pace down enough for me to open her. We had a sort of instant date and it turns out she wasn't even going anywhere - that's just how she always walks in order to ..... drumroll......... avoid creepy guys.
We are of like minds Jeff. 90% of my cold approaches end up becoming orbiters. I've always got someone in rotation so I have no need for speed f*cking some hoe I met at the club, and can afford to be patient and just meet people by proxy.Jeffst1980 said:The only answer I see is to use cold approaches to expand your social circle, and work from there. Social circle game is SO MUCH EASIER!! Of course, this is best done outside of clubs.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Do you really think so?wait_out said:Ok OP. I'd like you to write that list again.... but from more of a girl's point of view, who wouldn't mind meeting a decent guy, but finds the club environment more than a little discouraging to that end. Hyper aggressive roid monkeys are really not every girls cup of tea.
I find music-focused club nights are fine. It's the mainstream ones that are a passive-aggressive, socially retarded mess where the guys are choking each other out and in bracelets at the end of the night, and the girls are running around in bunches of 3, crying. I'll pass on that, thanks
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.