"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Good Ole United States. I consider myself a top tier guy though. Great shape, Peak of SMV, 200k a year. Ive drastically improved my life in the last year just by hitting the gym and getting shredded. Ive lost 57lbs total and now clean bulking for another 8 weeks. Im telling you guys, get to the damn gym and get your nutrition in order. Every other aspect of your life will improve, and not just with women.
$200,000 annual + 10% body fat offsets a mediocre height by United States standards. 5'10" is not a desired height for American White women, though non-White American women are less likely to be fussy about it.

"Money, muscles, game" -Rollo Tomassi

You have the money and muscles components going well. When looks + money are good, SMV is good.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Most normie range men (4-7.5) aren't going MGTOW. They are still hanging around the sexual marketplace, often with middling results. Some might catch some girlfriends, especially if they aren't overly reliant upon apps or social media DMs. In between girlfriends, many are acting like Average Frustrated Chumps. Those are the guys likely having a lot of "one date, no sex, no second date" interactions on swipe apps, and these are mostly at the choosing of the woman.

The normie range men who tend to do best are ones with good social circles who pick up a long term girlfriend that way.

Guys who stay off the apps have better outcomes. The apps are a good way to stay lose to permanently single for a normie range man or to date down big time. A male 7 might have to settle for a female 5 on an app, and that's even a better case scenario after a lot of frustration for the man.
Many of us are lucky we dated before OLD was a thing like it is now, current AFC mindset is you are doom if you cant get laid or have a relationship using OLD.
 

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I think this infliction point for 27 + year old single women has been on the horizon for a while

I mean the markets never been hotter for 20 something baddies but with so many women doing pay to play things with only fans and seeking arrangements the arena of female beauty has become very very saturated and very very competitive

They are at risk of burning their own demand out , theres new hot chicks coming through the ranks every single day.

I also think more men are starting to realise that Simping over all this online content isn't getting them laid and the flow of attentions beginning to dry up

Its not 2015 anymore people are more switched on too social media content and its true agenda you can see "likes" aren't being dished out as freely and innocently they once were

I can imagine for an older woman its starting to get very very difficult to stand out and garner anywhere near the same level of quality male attention she was a few years ago

I can also imagine for some the thought of being single at 40 for a lot of them is starting to get very very scary

Demand for attractive single men with no kid's in their 30's & 40's with their sh1t together I feel is about to go through the roof and I personally am more than ready for it
 

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It's pretty much always been like this for me. It took a little while but I developed pretty much a cookie cutter system with OLD that allowed me to crank out numbers, dates, lays, etc until I built up a pipeline.

Then it's about keeping it full as women fall off.

Haven't been on OLD for a bit as I am in an LTR currently but I'd be confident the same thing would happen if I go back to it.
 

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Good Ole United States. I consider myself a top tier guy though. Great shape, Peak of SMV, 200k a year. Ive drastically improved my life in the last year just by hitting the gym and getting shredded. Ive lost 57lbs total and now clean bulking for another 8 weeks. Im telling you guys, get to the damn gym and get your nutrition in order. Every other aspect of your life will improve, and not just with women.
Damn dude. I can only dream of making 200K. Thats amazing. Btw how old are you and how did you lose the weight.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Any techbro that has been in 5 years can earn 200 easy, hell RNs make 2 bills. Coastal cities and some midwestern cities 200 is like baseline.
 

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Any techbro that has been in 5 years can earn 200 easy, hell RNs make 2 bills. Coastal cities and some midwestern cities 200 is like baseline.
Hi Pierce,
I am Gobslapped that a Nurse can make $200 Grand?....And yet I read in one of our Rags this Morning that your (To us) crazy tipping system,means many poor waitresses are on a retainer wage of $3.50 an hour....Such Social disparity seems like a lot of Sorrow down the line?
 

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Waitresses wouldn’t be waiting tables if they weren’t making good money. A standard is 20% of the meal in the US. Your average middle class restaurant (tablecloths etc) is going to cost 60-100 US as a meal for 2. A waitress usually has 5 tables or so, with an hourly turnover on an 8 hour shift. Using $60 that’s $12 a table x 5 an hour is $60 x 8 hours is $480 in tips per shift. Most waitresses are sharing tips with the busboys and kitchen, how much I don’t know but I’m guessing a waitress or waiter get 50%.

If they couldn’t make that kind of money, they’d avail themselves of a minimum wage job.

As of January 1, 2024, the minimum wage in California is set to increase to $16 per hour for all employers. This rate is applicable statewide, but some cities and counties in California may have a local minimum wage that is higher than the state rate.

California’s Minimum Wage to Increase to $16 per hour in January 2024 | California Department of Industrial Relations] https://www.dir.ca.gov/DIRNews/2023/2023-66.html
 

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Waitresses wouldn’t be waiting tables if they weren’t making good money. A standard is 20% of the meal in the US. Your average middle class restaurant (tablecloths etc) is going to cost 60-100 US as a meal for 2. A waitress usually has 5 tables or so, with an hourly turnover on an 8 hour shift. Using $60 that’s $12 a table x 5 an hour is $60 x 8 hours is $480 in tips per shift. Most waitresses are sharing tips with the busboys and kitchen, how much I don’t know but I’m guessing a waitress or waiter get 50%.

If they couldn’t make that kind of money, they’d avail themselves of a minimum wage job.

As of January 1, 2024, the minimum wage in California is set to increase to $16 per hour for all employers. This rate is applicable statewide, but some cities and counties in California may have a local minimum wage that is higher than the state rate.

California’s Minimum Wage to Increase to $16 per hour in January 2024 | California Department of Industrial Relations] https://www.dir.ca.gov/DIRNews/2023/2023-66.html
Hi Pierce,
No wonder that so many illegals risk a wet Arvse crossing the Rio Grande,I think you should change the wording under that Avatar,from,Land of Nuts and Fruit to Land of Milk and Honey LOL.
 

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Hi Pierce,
No wonder that so many illegals risk a wet Arvse crossing the Rio Grande,I think you should change the wording under that Avatar,from,Land of Nuts and Fruit to Land of Milk and Honey LOL.
The cost of living here is super high. The poverty level for a family of four is something like 114k, so truly given the cost of living it’s not that great.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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The cost of living here is super high. The poverty level for a family of four is something like 114k, so truly given the cost of living it’s not that great.
Hi Pierce,
That equates to US$2280/wk...Here it isUS$680/wk!...So Hacker,a degree holder doing a Graveyard Shift at $40/hr is struggling?Must be a cheese paring existence for the really poor Folk?
 

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Hi Pierce,
That equates to US$2280/wk...Here it isUS$680/wk!...So Hacker,a degree holder doing a Graveyard Shift at $40/hr is struggling?Must be a cheese paring existence for the really poor Folk?
Yes but your cost of living is lower.
 

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Damn dude. I can only dream of making 200K. Thats amazing. Btw how old are you and how did you lose the weight.
Im 36. Lost the weight by resistance training 4-5x a week, 15k steps a day, using the 1st Phorm app hitting my macros perfectly for 8 months straight along with no alcohol.
 

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Any techbro that has been in 5 years can earn 200 easy, hell RNs make 2 bills. Coastal cities and some midwestern cities 200 is like baseline.
Im in the automotive industry. Starting in sales, worked my way into a buyer position, then into running the entire dealership. Stressful but very rewarding.
 

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I just watched some of the videos you guys have posted over time about how Tinder is or how dating is. God dammm, I knew it was bad but holy Shiite, you youngsters need to stop watching the black pill stuff. I don’t deal with the stuff that’s shown, but it’s not because I’m Chad, it’s because I do not deal with youngsters. Most of you would consider my lower bar old (35).

Stop sitting in the echo chamber, remember if you’re on a black pill channel you’re going to only have your depressing beliefs reinforced. Get outside, get active, meet people.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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I've been telling men forever to use Hinge. It's way better. I get an absurd amount of #s from it and that's how I meet 99% of women now.
 

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Possibly the reason why so many kids are hitting on older women...
 

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The dating pool is full of women who are looking for different things. But most just want a guy whos confident, good looking , secure in himself and not a bum who can light up their pleasure and create comfort/security and excitement.
 

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and get on Hinge or Bumble.
I am only interested in dating Christian woman who wait until marriage. These sites generally dont sound like they lend themselves to that type of woman.
 

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I am only interested in dating Christian woman who wait until marriage. These sites generally dont sound like they lend themselves to that type of woman.
Good luck with that. Maybe if you looked like Tim Tebow you'd have better luck.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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