This is what makes me feel incredibly hopeless in dating

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Wow, Dave sure brings out everyone's best writing skills huh

 

[spinich]

Just an observation but I noticed the female contributors are much more verbous than the male responders. How's that for an over generalization!!

 

[17 shots]

Just an observation but I noticed the female contributors are much more verbous than the male responders. How's that for an over generalization!!

Yea sazc definitely won, although atom almost won me over when he used a semicolon

 

[sazc]

Yea sazc definitely won, although atom almost won me over when he used a semicolon

lol shaddap You guys are too fvkin funny...sometimes

 

[Atom Smasher]

Just an observation but I noticed the female contributors are much more verbous than the male responders. How's that for an over generalization!!

true

 

[In2theGame]

make me last longer? the last time i had sex 3 years ago, I could last an hour with no issues if I wanted to. Bigger sex drive? dude I can masturbate 8 times a day if I want. The last woman I was seeing, I sometimes had sex with her 10 times a week (and I would have done more, but she didn't want it any more). I also have very high testosterone naturally - I'm naturally very strong, gain muscle quickly, have real thick facial hair, real heavy lower jawline/chin (tell-tale signs of high test)


none of these things help give me easy dating opportunities with quality, fit, attractive women in their 20s

3 years ago?...

 

[mrgoodstuff]

maybe 2 years ago. I don't get any dating opportunities with anybody worthwhile anymore and I stopped having sex with single moms, women over 30, chubby chicks, etc....

I really don't think my standards are anything crazy. I posted pictures of women I pursued on dating sites and guru rated them as 4s-6s. I think it's just that women are rated on a huge curved scale nowadays - a decent looking 25 year old with a nice body with no kids is treated like a 10/10 even though she's just a 6

I'll give you example of the dating opportunities I get. I was at a bar 2 weeks ago and this chubby Indian girl tried 6 times to talk to me. I was at a gym yesterday and these 3 chubby Latinas were staring me down hardcore over and over again. That's all I get.

Your just not into the game. When the game you as a valid player you will have your way. A wise woman told me in the dating game that as aman you HAVE to run game on em.

 

[bigdave17]

3 years ago?...

maybe 2 years ago. I don't get any dating opportunities with anybody worthwhile anymore and I stopped having sex with single moms, women over 30, chubby chicks, etc....

I really don't think my standards are anything crazy. I posted pictures of women I pursued on dating sites and guru rated them as 4s-6s. I think it's just that women are rated on a huge curved scale nowadays - a decent looking 25 year old with a nice body with no kids is treated like a 10/10 even though she's just a 6

I'll give you example of the dating opportunities I get. I was at a bar 2 weeks ago and this chubby Indian girl tried 6 times to talk to me. I was at a gym yesterday and these 3 chubby Latinas were staring me down hardcore over and over again. That's all I get. That's just garbage

 

[bigdave17]

Your just not into the game

what do you mean?


I would smash if I had the chance to sleep with 6s and 7s. You guys act like I'm holding out for a 10/10. This is all ignoring the fact that I'm a 7 to 7.5. Men are supposed to go above their weight class, I can't even get below my weight class

 

[mrgoodstuff]

what do you mean?


I would smash if I had the chance to sleep with 6s and 7s. You guys act like I'm holding out for a 10/10. This is all ignoring the fact that I'm a 7 to 7.5. Men are supposed to go above their weight class, I can't even get below my weight class

Your not an active "player". Youve been doing blow by blow and analysis but your not in the game.

 

[bigdave17]

Your not an active "player". Youve been doing blow by blow and analysis but your not in the game.

I go out to bars and clubs, concerts, sports events, festivals, etc... etc.... etc... etc.... constantly

My issue is I need something close to a natural opportunity to approach. If a girl is out with 9 friends, I feel too awkward to approach

 

[zekko]

I was bullied and mocked for my lack of dating life in 8th and 9th grade

Lots of people suck in high school. It means nothing when it comes to adult life. It doesn't carry over unless you let it mindfvck you.

Look at all those ugly duckling girls who got into their 20s and all of a sudden they were smoking hot. Leave the past in the past.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I go out to bars and clubs, concerts, sports events, festivals, etc... etc.... etc... etc.... constantly

My issue is I need something close to a natural opportunity to approach. If a girl is out with 9 friends, I feel too awkward to approach

Your dyck has to be wet and you have to have pull to be in the game. Your powers are nonexistent currently. You can exceed your wildest imagination. Get gly in the game. Do what players do.

 

[Atom Smasher]

Women today have a grossly exaggerated view of their SMV. That's why most male 7's are having trouble these days. You need to develop social ease. Social ease is the most attractive quality a man can possess.

Do you stare at them with a creepy vibe, or do you exhibit social ease and command of your surroundings?

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Women today have a grossly exaggerated view of their SMV. That's why most male 7's are having trouble these days. You need to develop social ease. Social ease is the most attractive quality a man can possess.

Do you stare at them with a creepy vibe, or do you exhibit social ease and command of your surroundings?

If you have puzzy on demand will you be needy or creepy?

 

[Atom Smasher]

If you have puzzy on demand will you be needy or creepy?

Exactly, but he needs to detach himself and get the basics down.

 

[bigdave17]

Women today have a grossly exaggerated view of their SMV. That's why most male 7's are having trouble these days. You need to develop social ease. Social ease is the most attractive quality a man can possess.

Do you stare at them with a creepy vibe, or do you exhibit social ease and command of your surroundings?

what do you mean social ease? I make friends everywhere I go

but again, my biggest issue is I need somewhat of a natural opportunity to approach. I just can't go in there like a bull in a china shop when there are a million obstacles in the way

 

[Atom Smasher]

You're not comfortable with women you're attracted to, correct?

You need to learn to talk with attractive women without an end in mind. Do it just to get used to it without pressure.

As far as a natural opportunity to approach, there's no such thing. Just get out there and be active. You're no different from anyone else, You need to make and find those situations. Don't you have any hobbies or interests where women with similar interests might congregate?

 

[bigdave17]

You're not comfortable with women you're attracted to, correct?

You need to learn to talk with attractive women without an end in mind. Do it just to get used to it without pressure.

As far as a natural opportunity to approach, there's no such thing. Just get out there and be active. You're no different from anyone else, You need to make and find those situations. Don't you have any hobbies or interests where women with similar interests might congregate?

Natural opportunity to approach - meeting women through friends or some kind of mutual social gathering, work, etc...


cold approaching at a bar when she is there with 9 friends is very difficult

 

[bigdave17]

Women are value sensing machines. You can rationalize all you want about how you think you fit every criteria. At the end of the day all of your frustrations comes from the feeling that you are not good enough. You feel that you do not have enough value to barter with women so that they give you what you want.

No one can cure this for you. It might be reality. It might be illusory. Maybe you do have the value but a deep seeded insecurity blocks you. Or maybe you are slacking off in certain aspects. Only you know what the deal is.

At the end of the day, there is nothing new under the sun. We have seen it all. In my experience, I would say that most guys like you already have what it takes.....but you don’t believe it no matter what anyone tells you. And if you don’t believe it, it might as well be your reality. Because as a great man known as pook once said: “as you think, so shall you become.” This works both ways. You can be a 7 who is good enough who thinks himself into a 4....or you can be a 7 who accepts his own value and knows he is good enough.

good point

I've had 25923582305823528 people tell me I have what it takes, but making myself believe it is so hard

It's like a kid who touches a hot stove when he is young and he is absolutely terrified to ever go near it in the future