This forum has turned bad

[Serenity]

This is a type of thread that pops up from time to time. It's far from the first time and it's definitely not the last time I will see this common complaint.

I have seen several threads that just don't get the attention they deserve and it's not the new guys fault. They're here for help, meanwhile a lot of members experienced enough to help them are instead engaged in ultimately pointless discussions about other things.

I too would like to see more positive and constructive discussion about how to proceed in the current environment, rather than hear about how fvcked everything is and that there's no solution. I don't expect everyone to have a solution, but if the discussion is at least geared towards finding one it could be fruitful for everyone.

If everyone had spent the mental energy they do finding every little flaw to instead find ways around it, we would all achieve greatness together.

This forum is only as good as the members who inhabit it.

 

[Serenity]

Serenity for President 2024

Lol, I'm not eligible. My country doesn't even have a president.

 

[BMX]

It's time for many here to ditch the victim mentality and realize that NO ONE is going to fvcking come save them. Then and only then will they be able to make solid progress within their own lives and begin taking those "steps" as I told a (possible troll user) 44-year-old on here the other day. After holding yourself accountable you can begin to take the knowledge here and improve yourself, but you have to maintain that personal responsibility throughout. Not some magic trick or one off quick fix. Actual determination and courage required. Go read "Can't Hurt Me" by David Goggins or listen to him online if you don't know how to read. I literally had a Goggins moment today when I broke down on the side of some two-lane country road. I made a phone call, no response (no worries), put my get home bag on my back and hiked home. Didn't sit around moping alone on the side of the road, rather I went home and got everything sorted out in a timely manner.

 

[Ricky]

This is a type of thread that pops up from time to time. It's far from the first time and it's definitely not the last time I will see this common complaint.

I have seen several threads that just don't get the attention they deserve and it's not the new guys fault. They're here for help, meanwhile a lot of members experienced enough to help them are instead engaged in ultimately pointless discussions about other things.

I too would like to see more positive and constructive discussion about how to proceed in the current environment, rather than hear about how fvcked everything is and that there's no solution. I don't expect everyone to have a solution, but if the discussion is at least geared towards finding one it could be fruitful for everyone.

If everyone had spent the mental energy they do finding every little flaw to instead find ways around it, we would all achieve greatness together.

This forum is only as good as the members who inhabit it.

All good points!

 

[Ricky]

It's time for many here to ditch the victim mentality and realize that NO ONE is going to fvcking come save them. Then and only then will they be able to make solid progress within their own lives and begin taking those "steps" as I told a (possible troll user) 44-year-old on here the other day. After holding yourself accountable you can begin to take the knowledge here and improve yourself, but you have to maintain that personal responsibility throughout. Not some magic trick or one off quick fix. Actual determination and courage required. Go read "Can't Hurt Me" by David Goggins or listen to him online if you don't know how to read. I literally had a Goggins moment today when I broke down on the side of some two-lane country road. I made a phone call, no response (no worries), put my get home bag on my back and hiked home. Didn't sit around moping alone on the side of the road, rather I went home and got everything sorted out in a timely manner.

That is a great book and kind of the right book at the right time for me

 

[Rainman4707]

Psycological fact - Women are more agreeable than men.

About a month ago i seen two men working on removing a desk. They just argued. Both wanted to do it there way. No discussion.

 

[firstbornunicorn]

I agree.

I sometimes get short-fused with some posters, but only the very people you mention that are ruining this place.

You're one of the few posting good ****.

 

[PRW63]

I think this forum used to be good, at least it was a few years ago when I joined under a different name. Now it’s full of simps, perverts, and mostly idiots who don’t know what they are doing

You left out the Dark Triads (Narcissists, Psychopaths, Sociopaths), that just see women as walking meat for the purpose of being "live" sex toys. I see a few of them from time to time,...they aren't a majority but they exist. The others I can ignore if I am not in the mood to deal with them, but these are disturbing. They probably see all people in a similar manner, but due to the context of these forums the focus is going to be on women.

Lastly, everyone is mean to each other.

Most of what you said I agree with. But not this part. This place has pretty low drama and most get along fairly well. If you want to see a Circus full of drama, trolling, and fighting,...just go over to that wretched s**tshow known as Reddit. It is pretty tame here,...that is why I come here,...it is relative "piece & quiet".

 

[PRW63]

Psycological fact - Women are more agreeable than men.

Yea, but they don't actually agree,...not really. They just "go along to get along" more than men would. They are more "communal", men are more independent.

 

[Kotaix]

You're not wrong, and that is a good kick in the pants post for those who don't try, but at very least, the guys that come here are at least trying to improve themselves. At least 50% of men will never question the blue pill. You can't expect this to be all DJs with high lay counts just like you can't expect everyone to be a millionaire.

I come here to help my brothers and to learn. I do wish that people would stop complaining about female nature but there will always be someone who just woke up and is going thru redpill rage.

Start using the ignore feature. When you blacklist trolls your life becomes much easier.

 

[sch]

The solution is pretty simple, a FIELD REPORT forum where everybody could create their topic and tell about their approaches.

Personally, I don't actively cold approach right now, but I used to do that a lot in the past, like 7 days a week for couple of years.

I like this forum for the possibility to bond with people with similar views and I've got a lot of value from here. With that said, I could agree to some extent that some guys here should approach more and blame less.

 

[BadBoy89]

If a man is having issues / getting angry about the content of an anonymous forum, he would get his ass kicked in real life. This forum is just posters expressing their opinion, some good, some bad. It’s upto the man to see what information applies to him.

The posters who troll do it because they project their own insecurities on others. They don’t want to put the effort in to succeed so they shame/shock/abuse others. They post how desperate men are, how women should be worshipped, how the dating world is unfair, how women are Gods. Sadly the moderators allow it but anything *slightly* political, even though logical, is banned with a vengeance.

But it’s funny men are getting upset at the content of the forum. They get upset at this, any 23 year old hot girl would make their head spin in 11 seconds.

As we tell men who want to succeed with women, dont hate the player, hate the game.

 

[B80]

Psycological fact - Women are more agreeable than men.

About a month ago i seen two men working on removing a desk. They just argued. Both wanted to do it there way. No discussion.

Yeah women are generally more agreeable to each others faces at least.

Those 2 men don't represent typical male interactions though, that could be 2 guys that don't get along, clash etc, or just idiots.
Most guys get along fine when they need to get a job done.

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

If a man is having issues / getting angry about the content of an anonymous forum, he would get his ass kicked in real life. This forum is just posters expressing their opinion, some good, some bad. It’s upto the man to see what information applies to him.

The posters who troll do it because they project their own insecurities on others. They don’t want to put the effort in to succeed so they shame/shock/abuse others. They post how desperate men are, how women should be worshipped, how the dating world is unfair, how women are Gods. Sadly the moderators allow it but anything *slightly* political, even though logical, is banned with a vengeance.

But it’s funny men are getting upset at the content of the forum. They get upset at this, any 23 year old hot girl would make their head spin in 11 seconds.

As we tell men who want to succeed with women, dont hate the player, hate the game.

I doubt you're successful with females in any way I'd be impressed by. Prove me wrong.

 

[BadBoy89]

I doubt you're successful with females in any way I'd be impressed by. Prove me wrong.

Make a claim and shift the burden to the other party. If that’s not burden of proof fallacy, don’t know what is.

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

Anything other than being on your purpose is nonsense, these people are convinced they can game without a preoccupied mind, which most of the legacy on this forum supports, no you don't need money to be successful with women, but you do need something, if you have nothing, you get nothing which I agree with 100% no hand outs, although some of us get hand outs all the same, it's just a thing of convenience

 

[ubercat]

Hmm as usual I m going to go down a different path. I don't think labeling people betas is going to help open their minds. How about keeping it real, I e. ad.itting your own failings and making your advice actionable and specific. Of course if they don't give details or post the same mistake on repeat cut bait.

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

Hmm as usual I m going to go down a different path. I don't think labeling people betas is going to help open their minds. How about keeping it real, I e. ad.itting your own failings and making your advice actionable and specific. Of course if they don't give details or post the same mistake on repeat cut bait.

The problem with that is that most (if not all) of the guys trying to give advice DON'T HAVE SPECIFICS. Because they are full of sh1t and exaggerating their success.

 

[ubercat]

And there s plenty that do know. Honestly it's pretty easy to work out if you look at guys back posts. If you can't do that much you re kidding yourself about being a better man. You are not ready to do the work.

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

And there s plenty that do know. Honestly it's pretty easy to work out if you look at guys back posts. If you can't do that much you re kidding yourself about being a better man. You are not ready to do the work.

I'm vastly more experienced in life than anyone who would consider making life-changing decisions based on people protecting false versions of themselves on a forum where no one can prove anything.