The Zeitgeist

[speakeasy]

Oh...good grief....

 

[shop until I die!]

Jesus Christ!

When I started reading this I thought this was a joke. This is a sad statement upon a small portion of the American public. There are many things that are wrong with this country, but denying 9/11 and saying what you all are saying is the same as spitting in the face of the victim's families.

Right wing, Left wing...it doesn't matter. This is about sanity and logic. People need to drop their pride in their respective "liberal" or "conservative" views and stop arguing about garbage.

 

[hope7]

denying 9/11 and saying what you all are saying is the same as spitting in the face of the victim's families.

It wasn't denying 9/11. I can see why you thought that because some said the movie is like those who deny the moon landing.

 

[blueguy]

Right wing, Left wing...it doesn't matter. This is about sanity and logic.

What's so crazy about a group of guys giving off false smoke signals?

It's the norm rather than the exception whenever a large crime is committed.

You never heard of Enron?

You never been to court proceedings?

It happens EVERY day.

 

[shop until I die!]

What's so crazy about a group of guys giving off false smoke signals?

It's the norm rather than the exception whenever a large crime is committed.

You never heard of Enron?

You never been to court proceedings?

It happens EVERY day.

Just wondering, seeing as though you believe 9/11 was a front for something much more nefarious and evil, how is it that you can continue to leave your house at all? I'm only asking because if I ACTUALLY believed this non-sense I would have a tough time over coming the massive amount of fear, paranoia, and delusion to leave my house...you know, with all those evil American leaders out there. (Sarcasm)

Maybe a bottle of focus factor could help you see through this garbage? At this point any suggestion to help you 9/11 anti-Americans should be welcomed.

Lastly, how does arguing about this on THIS website do anything for your guys' (outrageous) cause? Do you think all these WBAFC's are going to say "God Damn, they're right!!! Now I must fight for the good cause! F*** trying to become a real playa with women, I think spreading the word about how our government was behind 9/11 is much more worthy of my time!"

 

[Last Man Standing]

J At this point any suggestion to help you 9/11 anti-Americans should be welcomed.

You don't like truth - eh? You and fascist like you are the treasonous ones!! Traitors!!

CIA veterans want an investigation into 911 cover-up!http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_alan_mil_070922_seven_cia_veterans_c.htm

 

[KontrollerX]

"I think spreading the word about how our government was behind 9/11 is much more worthy of my time!"

That actually is a much more worthy cause than persuing women.

 

[jonwon]

When the 'truth seeker' debunkers, decide to tackle the debate with hard facts and not getting personal, maybe then we or i could see your point, so far all i see is hot air about how 'looney' e.t.c we are.

lol.

Anyway telling me i am spitting on the families of the victims, you need to look at the bigger picture. I am disgusted what happened, but for them to be used has scape-goats to go kill innocent poor people in IRAQ, tag you with ID cards (you think thats going to stop people from entering the country. lol i mean lol, it will only make it EASIER), or tag you with ID chips, IS IMO Pissing on those people.

To blindly accept, the lies and mistrust that has been waved on this issues, then have the cheek to bring the issue of the people who died at it has your defence makes my skin crawl, it really does, i cant believe i am even reading it.

But then again, since you dont watch it, take the time to look at it, or review the facts i expected little more and for that i feel pritty dam sorry for the american people right now, pritty dam sorry indeed, i suppose you could walk up to a poor women with her 10 year old kid in IRAQ and say " sorry we blow your PA up but we dont want to pis* on the people that died e.t.c)

Like i said too busy eating your burgers and wollowing in your own self importance to look at how you have been exploited.

And to call me racist is another retarded statement.

I actually care about people different to me, in religion, colour and skin.

I find the advocators of the official story harbour some form of racial hatred for others not of there colour or pre-dispostion.

I live in the UK and i can state over 90% of the muslim population have a hard time believing the official lie, i suppose that makes them racists too?

The true conspiracy, has been weaved by the government to your biased little minds, open to exploitation and true fear, catering to your biased view point of other cultures different to yours, in that the LIE has been easy to pass has the TRUTH of THE MATTER, the ones who advocate this stuff are advocating:

Death of your fellow man; soilders.
Death of innocent poor people in IRAQ, what next?
Tagging you all like dogs.

And your think i am pis8ing on the victims?

Open your mind, who exactly do you consider a VICTIM in this?

There is no hope for your country, even if 911 was proved to be true has the official story, you still CANT DENY it was EXPLOITED the best WAY IT COULD BE, pritty dam fuc*ing conveniant dont you think?

you all just buy it hook line and sinker, the true racists, biased is not here, it is in yourself, what next?

Go kill pig farmers? for the champion of state? Sickening it really is, reading some of the replies in this thread.

My respect for human nature really does dwindle when i read, programmed mindcontrolled biased bots, justify the means for all the shi* that has been going on and laugh at others who dont stand by there barbaric ideals.

I said in my first reply, if they bring in the draft, i expect you believers in the official LIE to get first in line, i mean you advocate what is going on, correct?

What is the TRUE death toll of 911?
Dont tell me i am pis*ing on the victims!

Welcome to your tagging like lambs to the slaughter, dont forget to wave the American flag everytime an innocent civilian in an other country gets slaughtered for the sake of 'freedom from tyranny'.

America is probably the most hated country right now, i bet your did not know that uh?

So self important, how do you think other countries are viewing this? You think they are swollowing your lies? Get a grip, others are looking on you lot has poor simple creatures, grown up to worship state and keep fighting for 'freedom' to kill sheep farmers in poor countries. I expect other countries to be pritty concerned with your way on how to do things, especcially considering how fuc*ed up 911 was and still is, even if it was true.

What the hell has it got to do with IRAQ?
Nothing what-so-ever.
A smoke-screen, now people are accepting tagging, ID chips, the works, your government can listen in on your calls, you HAVE NO PRIVACY anymore and they dont even have to tell you ABOUT IT.

I love the defenders telling us that where conspiracy nuts whislt getting shafted by the RED WHITE AND BLUE Coc*.

Harder, harder, harder, yes, yes, yes! Wait a second am i being shafted?

 

[hope7]

Lastly, how does arguing about this on THIS website do anything for your guys' (outrageous) cause? Do you think all these WBAFC's are going to say "God Damn, they're right!!! Now I must fight for the good cause! F*** trying to become a real playa with women, I think spreading the word about how our government was behind 9/11 is much more worthy of my time!"

Points to title of forum: "anything else"

 

[Ever onward]

Everyone is getting so caught up in the 911 part of the film. I would never dismiss 911 as being unimportant but look at the other issues.

Congress passed a bill that will force us to carry National ID cards as early as NEXT YEAR. We won't be able to go anywhere without getting that card swiped. That means the government will know when we go to the movies and what movies we are seeing. What books we buy. EVERYTHING we do.

The bill was passed because it was an attachment to a larger bill for funding the troops. What a sneaky way to do it!

LMS and Jonwon are right, ID chips are the next step! GPS chips are being placed in all new passports issued already.

 

[ricorico]

If the government ws behing 9/11 in order to have an excuse for war, they actually went through it the hardest way they could. They had to have ten's of thousands of people in on the conspiracy theory as it was very complicated.

Why not simply have 1 plnae hit the white house? That would have been an act of war. Nothing else would have been needed.

And if they could have gotten 19 fake highjackers to go along with this fiasco,take flight classes and hang around the U.S. waiting for their mission without anyone spilling the beans. Why could'nt they have gotten people to really hide weapons of mass destruction in Iraq ,accuse them and BINGO!!!! there it is!

The government can barely get anyone to keep a secret. Book deals are made all the time by people in government wanting to spill the beans for a few cool million. None of them has been killed for doing it. So I'm supposed to believe all those 10's and thousands of people in on the theory are all honest or got paid off millions to shut up? I don't buy it!

 

[hope7]

Everyone is getting so caught up in the 911 part of the film. I would never dismiss 911 as being unimportant but look at the other issues.

Congress passed a bill that will force us to carry National ID cards as early as NEXT YEAR. We won't be able to go anywhere without getting that card swiped. That means the government will know when we go to the movies and what movies we are seeing. What books we buy. EVERYTHING we do.

The bill was passed because it was an attachment to a larger bill for funding the troops. What a sneaky way to do it!

LMS and Jonwon are right, ID chips are the next step! GPS chips are being placed in all new passports issued already.

I think it'll go more slower then that. First we'll just be required to have the ID card. Then a year later it'll be swiped whenever we go to a govt agency. Then more places, ect.

 

[ricorico]

I think it'll go more slower then that. First we'll just be required to have the ID card. Then a year later it'll be swiped whenever we go to a govt agency. Then more places, ect.

If any of you have been out of the country you'll know most governments already do that. We are acting like our government is doing something new and vicious. Many countries will need your ID,document your info even if you go to the doctor or do anything. I was in Colombia years back and in order to buy a pair of pants, they wanted my hotel info,cell phone( I did'nt have one so gave my hotle number). Many countries you have to travel with ID all the time and the natives know it. My father travels a lot for biz . Has for years and knows the drill outside of the U.S. and wonders what the hype is all about.

 

[Ever onward]

If any of you have been out of the country you'll know most governments already do that. We are acting like our government is doing something new and vicious. Many countries will need your ID,document your info even if you go to the doctor or do anything. I was in Colombia years back and in order to buy a pair of pants, they wanted my hotel info,cell phone( I did'nt have one so gave my hotle number). Many countries you have to travel with ID all the time and the natives know it. My father travels a lot for biz . Has for years and knows the drill outside of the U.S. and wonders what the hype is all about.

I thought we were supposed to be a cut above other countries. NO OFFENSE to anyone outside of the US but don't we as American's pride ourselves on being the leading democracy in the world?

Is that not why we have a Bill of Rights?

And by the way, you are correct. This problem is not limited to our country. Civil liberties everywhere are slowly being ebbed away.

 

[Last Man Standing]

GPS tracking will be mandatory!! This has been in the test stage for the last few years!! Of course, it'll be for the good of the environment and your safety! http://www.news.com/E-tracking,-coming-to-a-DMV-near-you/2010-1071_3-5980979.html

 

[ricorico]

With all the illegals coming into this country,homegrown terrorist,identity theft by the millions, and also 300 million people, what is wrong with taking into account people's tracks? It won't bother me unles I plan to do something wrong.

I just had to change one of my bank accounts due to someone hacking into my account. A friend recently had money taken out of his account to the tune of over $3,000. How did that happen?it was tracked back to a cashier at Gelson's supermarket.people are stealing ID's. I'm hoping everyone can be ID through fingerprints one day.

 

[speakeasy]

Trips me out that people are always talking about how unfree we are, and all these liberties are being taken and we're turning fascist blah blah. Yet people like Ahmadenejad and Hugo Chavez can come here and speak their anti-American trash and then go home to a heroes welcome. Yeah, there is no freedom all right. Now imagine if Bush wanted to go Caracas or Tehran to give a speech.

 

[ricorico]

Yeah, I can call the President a Dikkhead to his face if I wanted and nothing would happen. Pull that Shyt anywhere else and see how much freedom the rest of the world has.

Yes, there are things I can't say like threatening a hate crime or stuff like that. But after that,what can't we really say?

I was once on a forum where they were talking about those "poor Dixie Chicks" and how the public turned on them when they used their freedom of speach. Then I wondered why the people who turned on them were not expected to have freedom of speach either. Those Dixie Chicks made a whole movie on "poor us". We are not allowed to have freedom of speach.hypocrites!

When I stated on that website the Dixie Chicks should go to Iraq and see what freedom of speach was all about,them being women and all I GOT BANNED!!! It was so hypocritical. Those who always are such huge advocates for freedom of speach are always the ones to ban or complain when someone else is exercising that freedom and they hear something they don't like.

 

[g g g unit]

Thats funny because i don't remember venezuala or iran ever otherthrowing a us president, butting thier nose into other countries business and constantly go on a killing spree with whatever nation they like.

 

[ricorico]

By the way noone answered me when I asked why 9/11 had to be such so complicated if it was really set up by our government. You'd think they would have only had to make the White House a target.Giving no discussion of war.

Also instead of recruiting those 19 to pretend to highjack planes and kills themselves, they could easily have convinced others to hide weapons of mass destruction in key places and "discovered" them. Why go through the whole elaborate "Weapons of mass destruction" story.

As for having bombs hidden in the World trade center with noone noticing all these bombs going in and hidden in walls or whatever from night guards to the guys who clean the office every night it's hard to believe.