The Zeitgeist

[shop until I die!]

Once again, this thread is a joke and an unfortunate statement on the diminishing taste revolving around the use of the American first amendment.

In grade school you all were probably the ones who kept telling other kids that you see ghosts all the time. You guys are rediculous.

 

[Ever onward]

Once again, this thread is a joke and an unfortunate statement on the diminishing taste revolving around the use of the American first amendment.

In grade school you all were probably the ones who kept telling other kids that you see ghosts all the time. You guys are rediculous.

Yep, they should take away the first amendment shouldn't they? So that close minded people can go about their lives, mindlessly watch television, and question nothing like good little consumers and not have to do any thinking which might prove too upsetting.

 

[shop until I die!]

Yep, they should take away the first amendment shouldn't they? So that close minded people can go about their lives, mindlessly watch television, and question nothing like good little consumers and not have to do any thinking which might prove too upsetting.

No, of course I don't think they should take the first amendment away, but it's far-left, tasteless people like you who make a mockery of it.

 

[Ever onward]

Okay but I'm not left wing. I'm closer to a Conservative than I am a Liberal. Lou Dobbs isn't a left wing wacko either, he is simply reporting the truth. This is happening. This isn't a conspiracy theory.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H65f3q_Lm9U

 

[shop until I die!]

Okay but I'm not left wing. I'm closer to a Conservative than I am a Liberal. Lou Dobbs isn't a left wing wacko either, he is simply reporting the truth. This is happening. This isn't a conspiracy theory.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H65f3q_Lm9U

Hmm..."I'm not left wing," huh. Well let's see...

1. Talks about conspiracy theories on internet forums (check)

2. Show symptoms of not being able to demonstrate a logical mind (check)

3. Cannot identify credible sources (check)

4. Believes other far-left conspiracy theorists that post on internet forums and mistakes that for a mass-herd complex (check)

...yeah, you pretty much check out as far-left.

 

[Ever onward]

LOL, do you even know what far left means?

I'm not talking about a conspiracy theory. I'm talking about facts that are being reported on CNN. There's my source for you, CNN

 

[Ever onward]

Here's a definition of "far left" for you. At the bottom is my SOURCE.

"The term far left has been associated with ideologies such as socialism, communism, anarchism, anarchist communism, left communism, anarcho-syndicalism, Marxist-Leninism, Trotskyism and Maoism."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_left

I'm not a liberal. I'm against socialized health care. I'm against gun control. I'm for the Bill of Rights, the American Flag and Mom's apple pie.

I'm against this nation becoming part of the North American Union.

I'm against corrupt politicians who make agreements without the approval of congress and the American people that benefit the financially elite.

 

[shop until I die!]

Here's a definition of "far left" for you. At the bottom is my SOURCE.

"The term far left has been associated with ideologies such as socialism, communism, anarchism, anarchist communism, left communism, anarcho-syndicalism, Marxist-Leninism, Trotskyism and Maoism."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_left

I'm not a liberal. I'm against socialized health care. I'm against gun control. I'm for the Bill of Rights, the American Flag and Mom's apple pie.

I'm against this nation becoming part of the North American Union.

I'm against corrupt politicians who make agreements without the approval of congress and the American people that benefit the financially elite.

You can claim all these things if you want, but you're real stance comes out with these rediculous anti-american posts. You're far-left, the sooner you realize that, the better. That's all.

 

[Last Man Standing]

You can claim all these things if you want, but you're real stance comes out with these rediculous anti-american posts. You're far-left, the sooner you realize that, the better. That's all.

This doesn't make sense So Ever Onward is against his mothe, father, siblings, his friends? Aren't they Americans? You are Anti American for supporting policies that are destroying America, it's economy, it's constitution, our borders.

Politicians take an oath to protect America from foreign AND DOMESTIC enemies

Reality is not a theory...you don't make sense.

Oh no, my exclamation point key is not working.

 

[Ever onward]

You can claim all these things if you want, but you're real stance comes out with these rediculous anti-american posts. You're far-left, the sooner you realize that, the better. That's all.

America was FOUNDED by free thinking people who questioned the government's policies. Once we stop thinking for ourselves, we stop being Americans.

 

[hope7]

You can claim all these things if you want, but you're real stance comes out with these rediculous anti-american posts. You're far-left, the sooner you realize that, the better. That's all.

This is all far-left??? Oh my god, I should disregard everything in this thread regardless of the facts.

 

[Ever onward]

You see? No basis in logic or facts at all. This individual ACTUALLY BELIEVES that Christians, the Jews, and Satanists acted in collusion to plan the terrorist attacks of September 11th! Christians and Satanists TEAMING UP to murder 3,000 innocent people. The conspiracy theorists of this thread are siding with this person. Hard to believe, but it's true. These people are EVERYWHERE. Pumping your gas, serving your movie theater popcorn, and spitting in your onion rings at McDonald's. You just never know. There could be a Last Man Standing in YOUR neighborhood...playing with your children, watching your house at night...pretty scary.

You shouldn't say that everyone who disagrees with you on this thread is a conspiracy theorist. Personally, I'm more interested in the political side of things. LMS may come off as an extremist sometimes but you have to take what he says with a grain of salt.

Look at what he said:

White christians, white jews and white satanists did 911!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now at first glance it looks like he's blaming 911 on Jews, Christians and Satanists.

But look at what he's saying:

He said that WHITE people are responsible. Meaning he doesn't put the blame on people of Arab descent.

He also said that Christians, Jews, and Satanists did it, in other words, people of all religions and not just the Islamics who are generally blamed.

So in his rather crass way of saying it, he meant that he believes that Non-Arab, Non-Muslim people are responsible for 911

Which is his right to believe.

And I hope that this thread doesn't get deleted. I used to hate politics. My ex-girlfriend was the president of the campus Democrats and I thought it was all a lot of boring crap. But now I'm really passionate about following what is going on. For better or worse, my eyes have been opened.

 

[shop until I die!]

You shouldn't say that everyone who disagrees with you on this thread is a conspiracy theorist.

Why should Deus Ex Pianoforte think anything else? All you guys do is bring up these far-fetched, far-left theories. Honestly, when I first came across this thread I thought it was a joke...and I guess in some ways I still feel as though this is a joke.

Personally, I'm more interested in the political side of things.

Just because what you are libeling has politics involved doesn't mean you're in it for the political side.

LMS may come off as an extremist sometimes but you have to take what he says with a grain of salt.

Agreed.

 

[ricorico]

Now at first glance it looks like he's blaming 911 on Jews, Christians and Satanists.

blamed.

So in his rather crass way of saying it, he meant that he believes that Non-Arab, Non-Muslim people are responsible for 911

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So Mohammed Atta and the others seen on camera getting on the plane and piloting the plane were paid by "Infidels" to crash the planes into the buildings . Hoping then to be martyred and get their rewards of 72 virgins after death? How did the infidels convince them to do that?

If conspirators are correct,is'nt the fact they were in cohoots with American Christian,Jewish "infidels" enough to guarentee they would never get their rewards in heaven and be denounced by their God?

 

[Last Man Standing]

So Mohammed Atta and the others seen on camera getting on the plane a

They were not muslims...they were agents who worked for us. Read kid, read.

[LMS may come off as an extremist sometimes but you have to take what he says with a grain of salt.

Agreed.

Ever Onward misused that metaphor. He got the gist of my statement and supported it. Not everyone who calls themselves a jew or chrisian is a jew or christian...many, most are hypocrites.

Know this...Love is not extreme, hate is. Peace is not the extreme, war is.

Here are the devils who make war with the earth... Project for the New American Century...PNAC..

A report released by PNAC in September of 2000 entitled 'Rebuilding America's Defenses' codifies this plan, which requires a massive increase in defense spending and the fighting of several major theater wars in order to establish American dominance. The first has been achieved in Bush's new budget plan, which calls for the exact dollar amount to be spent on defense that was requested by PNAC in 2000. Arrangements are underway for the fighting of the wars.

They told Clinton to attack Iraq and the Muslims, he said "No". Now you know why they stole the last two elections and took over the executive and congress. See link... http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Project_for_the_New_American_Century

 

[Ever onward]

Why should Deus Ex Pianoforte think anything else? All you guys do is bring up these far-fetched, far-left theories. Honestly, when I first came across this thread I thought it was a joke...and I guess in some ways I still feel as though this is a joke.

I don't bring up anything that hasn't been on CNN. Believe it's a joke if you want to. Believe that the government is full of warm, caring, morally just people. Nope, no bad people ever get elected to office! Anyone who thinks otherwise is obviously a leftist extremist!

So Mohammed Atta and the others seen on camera getting on the plane and piloting the plane were paid by "Infidels" to crash the planes into the buildings . Hoping then to be martyred and get their rewards of 72 virgins after death? How did the infidels convince them to do that?

If conspirators are correct,is'nt the fact they were in cohoots with American Christian,Jewish "infidels" enough to guarentee they would never get their rewards in heaven and be denounced by their God?

Hey man you know that the 911 conspiracy isn't my area of expertise. We had this discussion before. I was simply interpreting what I felt LMS was getting at. The only thing I can say about 911 for sure is that there were a lot of questions that were never answered.

 

[ricorico]

They were not muslims...they were agents who worked for us. Read kid, read.


.. http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Project_for_the_New_American_Century

Can you provide a link to show 100% they were not Muslims and they worked for the U.S. government? From all I've read they had nothing to do with the U.S. government.How do you know that? Because one of your "websites" say so? There are many things one can say and state as fact. It is obvious since there is debunking going on everywhere. But to say a guy named Mohamed and his crew were not Muslim, are we to believe them Christian?Jewish? Satanist?

Some try to paint only Americans as villains and act like all the other countries leaders are being framed by us. Yet, citizens of those very countries are not very happy and have little rights.

Someone even tried to state in Iran people of different religions can practically dance in the streets. But my B'hai friends and Catholic friends laugh at that. Villifying America and trying to make those other countries,their rights and leaders look so great make me wonder what can you get out of this?

I agree the U.S. is'nt perfect and we must question governmnet, but this is ridiculous.

Aug 23 2007, 04:08 AM
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Rough justice: 80 lashes for 'immoral' Iranian who abused alcohol and had sex
DAVID WILLIAMS
18:53pm 22nd August 2007

His face covered by a balaclava, an official brandishing a cane repeatedly lashes the back of a man found guilty of breaking Iran's morality laws.

Two police officers hold the legs of 25-year-old Saeed Ghanbari and another his arms to ensure there is no escape from the punishment of 80 lashes handed down by a religious court.

Traffic was brought to a halt in Qazvin, 90 miles west of the capital Tehran, as more than 1,000 men gathered behind barricades to watch the public flogging.

Human Rights groups say there have been a marked rise in recent months in the number of people sentenced to executions and floggings in Iran.

Amnesty International, which said it is "greatly concerned by continuing human rights abuses in Iran", has highlighted figures revealing 117 people were executed in 2006 with thousands facing floggings.

They included a woman, who had been forced into prostitution as an eight-year-old, receiving 99 lashes because of "acts contrary to chasity."

Earlier this year, a man was flogged after a copy of the Bible was found in his car.

At least 120 executions have been recorded so far this year, according to Amnesty, with two youths under the age of 18 when they committed their crimes among those killed

 

[Ever onward]

Some try to paint only Americans as villains and act like all the other countries leaders are being framed by us. Yet, citizens of those very countries are not very happy and have little rights.

Someone even tried to state in Iran people of different religions can practically dance in the streets. But my B'hai friends and Catholic friends laugh at that. Villifying America and trying to make those other countries,their rights and leaders look so great make me wonder what can you get out of this?

I used to feel the same way and in a lot of ways I still do. Like I said before my ex gf was president of the campus democrats. I would get so sick of her leftist bs. It's as if she hated America, the country that I love. It's as if she was hating on a part of me and sympathizing with whoever she happened to feel the underdog of society was.

But this country isn't evil. We have an exceptional form of government. I can't say for sure that corrupt members of the government were responsible for 911 but I do know for sure that there is corruption in the government. Corruption finds its way into everything eventually why should the government be any different? You know where I stand, that I'm against our civil liberties being taken away. Regardless of whether you are opposed to ID cards or not, if the government is allowed to start forcing its will on us, it's only a matter of time before it forces something on us that you ricorico, are strongly opposed to.

I agree the U.S. is'nt perfect and we must question governmnet.

I would be absolutely thrilled if everyone shared that attitude.

Anyway, ricorico I'm glad that you know how to have a mature debate without turning things personal unlike others on this thread.

 

[ricorico]

EO,

Glad you don't take it personal either.

Government has always been corrupt from day 1. here and all over the world.I will never dispute that.Same as the corperate world,Hollywood and most everything else manipulated by the "Boys Club".

It's unfortunate and I keep my eyes and ears open.

This administration is'nt the only corruption. I question everything and will never take as afct wht I cannot see proven. I remember my father walking in with a folder during the Clinton administration. An "extreme right wing" friend had given him a list of all sorts of corruptions Clinton is responsible for. If you read this list, he made Bush look like an angel.From 100% responsibility to genocide in Sudan which had over a million killed for greed ,to allegations he had a few people murdered(like the mafia),zillions of dollars missing because he "stole it",all kinds of political accusations. names of folks who killed themselves because they knew too much,names of people jailed because they knew too much. But these were allegations. Nothing was proven as my father would debate with his Clinton hating friend.Then there was the part where Clinton was accused of going to Haiti to have a Voodoo ceremony done to save himself from impeachment. Back then,it t was said by Haitians in newspapers and forums 100's of HAitian orphan babies were killed to have the blood used during ceromony, but Clinton did'nt care. Bizare? yes, am I supposed to believe it? We should investigate the paper trails ourselves.

http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1257.cfm

I'm not saying this or anything else is real. Just that in every administration many allegations are made. Some can be proven, most can't.

 

[mpimpin]

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