spider_007
Master Don Juan
BIBLE WORTHY
ohh what's the use, it's not like the mods actually listen to us
ohh what's the use, it's not like the mods actually listen to us
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
My take on his statement 'make her feel sad and angry' is that you do it on a small level. ie tell her a sad story 'Tell stories about your sick puppy' thats one example from the original post. That being said i do also believe that things need to remain postive overall.Originally posted by Broham
'I agree with everything said in this guy's post, except where he says to make the girl feel angry/sad. I think you should def play to the girl's emotions, but I think when you first meet her, you should keep it positive. Then, as the relationship progresses, stir up a lil controversy and keep her guessing as to what you'll do next.'
'Women follow their emotions, and that leads them to sleep with men like me (who know how to control female emotions.)' Thats from the original post. I think it is a realistic goal. you are right when you say how you feel affects others. But so do your actions and words (which communicate your emotional state). You say influence anothers emotions, i say control by influence. example holding eye contact with a woman causes certain emotions in her, the action has influence and i exercised control on her emotions (i got a response that i 'wanted'). There is danger in being able to control other peoples emotions. Look at what hot women do to men. Looks cause emotional responses in men and they control this emotion to acquire resources and favours. I think the inner debate your trying to resolve is 'should i control women'. Its one i have come to terms with. Yes you should. Women need to be dominated by a strong, mentally healthy, powerful man. They need emotional, physical, pyscological control exerted over them. Domination has got a really ugly stigma to it. But my parents dominated me ie controled me and took care of me. I have dominated ex lovers kept them in check. It was hard for me to deal with until i stepped outside of being a man. I realise women arent like me.. i would hate being dominated because i am a man. A woman i believe wants nothing more than to be cared about enough by a great man who actually takes the effort and responsiblity to make sure she is not heading for disaster.Originally posted by izza
Lady_killR,
Would you please clarify what you mean by "controlling women's emotions?" Isn't this an unrealistic goal?
On the other hand, how you feel always does seem to affect others around you.
Still, I think that there is danger in thinking you can control another's emotion - influence it perhaps.
One lesson that was important for me to learn was that there's always a chance to be burned in loving women. This risk is the ante to play.
I look forward to what you have to say - I'm not trying to persuade you of anything, I'm looking for help resolving an inner debate. All the best,
--Izza
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
That's nice. But how the hell do you that. Where are the "Say:" and "Do:", the examples? It's way too vague and just repeating the same **** over. Needs to be more specific. There needs to be a guide there is more like a walkthrough then a set of guidelines. You don't buy a game guide so it gives you advise on how to beat the game, you buy it so it gives you directions on how to beat the game. That's what this is lacking.Keep the woman always swinging somewhere between validation and rejection. If she feels rejected, she drops out or gets REALLY MAD. And if she feels too validated, she will ditch you in a heartbeat. So push her away (emotionally) and then pull her back in.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
you need him to daw you a map?Originally posted by Master Homer
I don't like it. It has alot good in stuff in but no examples.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.