spider_007
Master Don Juan
BIBLE WORTHY
ohh what's the use, it's not like the mods actually listen to us
ohh what's the use, it's not like the mods actually listen to us
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
My take on his statement 'make her feel sad and angry' is that you do it on a small level. ie tell her a sad story 'Tell stories about your sick puppy' thats one example from the original post. That being said i do also believe that things need to remain postive overall.Originally posted by Broham
'I agree with everything said in this guy's post, except where he says to make the girl feel angry/sad. I think you should def play to the girl's emotions, but I think when you first meet her, you should keep it positive. Then, as the relationship progresses, stir up a lil controversy and keep her guessing as to what you'll do next.'
'Women follow their emotions, and that leads them to sleep with men like me (who know how to control female emotions.)' Thats from the original post. I think it is a realistic goal. you are right when you say how you feel affects others. But so do your actions and words (which communicate your emotional state). You say influence anothers emotions, i say control by influence. example holding eye contact with a woman causes certain emotions in her, the action has influence and i exercised control on her emotions (i got a response that i 'wanted'). There is danger in being able to control other peoples emotions. Look at what hot women do to men. Looks cause emotional responses in men and they control this emotion to acquire resources and favours. I think the inner debate your trying to resolve is 'should i control women'. Its one i have come to terms with. Yes you should. Women need to be dominated by a strong, mentally healthy, powerful man. They need emotional, physical, pyscological control exerted over them. Domination has got a really ugly stigma to it. But my parents dominated me ie controled me and took care of me. I have dominated ex lovers kept them in check. It was hard for me to deal with until i stepped outside of being a man. I realise women arent like me.. i would hate being dominated because i am a man. A woman i believe wants nothing more than to be cared about enough by a great man who actually takes the effort and responsiblity to make sure she is not heading for disaster.Originally posted by izza
Lady_killR,
Would you please clarify what you mean by "controlling women's emotions?" Isn't this an unrealistic goal?
On the other hand, how you feel always does seem to affect others around you.
Still, I think that there is danger in thinking you can control another's emotion - influence it perhaps.
One lesson that was important for me to learn was that there's always a chance to be burned in loving women. This risk is the ante to play.
I look forward to what you have to say - I'm not trying to persuade you of anything, I'm looking for help resolving an inner debate. All the best,
--Izza
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
That's nice. But how the hell do you that. Where are the "Say:" and "Do:", the examples? It's way too vague and just repeating the same **** over. Needs to be more specific. There needs to be a guide there is more like a walkthrough then a set of guidelines. You don't buy a game guide so it gives you advise on how to beat the game, you buy it so it gives you directions on how to beat the game. That's what this is lacking.Keep the woman always swinging somewhere between validation and rejection. If she feels rejected, she drops out or gets REALLY MAD. And if she feels too validated, she will ditch you in a heartbeat. So push her away (emotionally) and then pull her back in.
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
you need him to daw you a map?Originally posted by Master Homer
I don't like it. It has alot good in stuff in but no examples.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.