"The Kiss of Death Mistake"
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
The obsessive and creepy guys seem to do great with women, seriously
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"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
tsmith2334
Master Don Juan
Only reason it might be successful is if the guy abruptly cuts off contact and the girl begins to miss the attention.
Other than that, it's pretty much a sure way to fail at creating attraction.
That said, just because it may work here and there doesn't mean that it's a valid strategy or an admirable way of life.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
oakraiderz2
Master Don Juan
But I'm always thimnking how he breaks all the rules but still gets girls. If you think about it tho, getting girls is a numbers game. I'll put money on a normal looking guy hooking up if he approaches 10 girls in one night than a good looking guy approaching 1 girl in one night.
It was actually tough work. It took a long time to find a girl that would f*ck him, and even then she took some convincing and she was far from attractive. I actually don't think he's had sex since then either.
So I can't say it's a phenomenon I'm familiar with
Oh, yeah... I think my friends got your friend beat on the creep-o-meter by tenfold Sandow, so bring it :crackup:
SmoothTalker
Master Don Juan
From what I've seen, the only times it works is:
1)The girl is not terribly attractive
2)The girl has very low self esteem
3) The girl has some problem and feels a HUGE need to hook up to boost her ego and make herself feel attractive. For example say she got dumped/cheated on by her boyfriend.
When girls get like this, sometimes pretty much any guy will do, its not about them being into him. So the creepy guy just happens to be available because he's constantly hitting on her, and for the above reasons, she'll follow up on his offer.
In this way I've seen guys get some action, but it never moves beyond that because she is not actually interested in him.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.