"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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The obsessive and creepy guys seem to do great with women, seriously

Demystify

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Seriously, I always hear about guys calling, texting, and messaging the same girl non-stop, without her responding, and they still seem to hookup with her in the end. has anyone else noticed this?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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tsmith2334

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Noticed it work maybe once in my life. Definitely not the norm.

Only reason it might be successful is if the guy abruptly cuts off contact and the girl begins to miss the attention.

Other than that, it's pretty much a sure way to fail at creating attraction.
 

Firefly

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Also, don't forget "obsessive" and "creepy" are a matter of perception. To other rival guys, such behaviour may seem creepy but if the girl is really into him, then she may find it charming.
 

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Yeah, one of my theories is that when a girl says someone is "creepy" there is no real universal meaning for the term. Rather than scary behaviour, I think it can mean: AFC clingyness and desperation, unattractiveness, low social value. The last thing they mean is actual stalker like behaviour, and when they do it's usually perpetrated by the types mentioned before.

That said, just because it may work here and there doesn't mean that it's a valid strategy or an admirable way of life.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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i am me

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he could just be a baller with a nice phone that he likes to use alot
 

oakraiderz2

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Uhh i doubt it. My girl tells me about how creepy guys always trying to hit on her and say weird sh*t to her and stalk her and sh*t.
 

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I have a friend who's the creepiest guy ever and still hooks up. How I don't know. But he's very very persisitent. he's the guy at the bar who literally hits and gropes on every girl he sees. However mostly the girls are brutal. Or Mexican. lol just kiddin. sometimes he gets a hottie.

But I'm always thimnking how he breaks all the rules but still gets girls. If you think about it tho, getting girls is a numbers game. I'll put money on a normal looking guy hooking up if he approaches 10 girls in one night than a good looking guy approaching 1 girl in one night.
 

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I've never seen it happen. Believe me I had a friend who was THE creepiest guy alive. He creeped me out actually, and that takes some work. He was persistent, but all to no avail. He stayed a virgin until he was 25. I'm actually the person that got him layed.

It was actually tough work. It took a long time to find a girl that would f*ck him, and even then she took some convincing and she was far from attractive. I actually don't think he's had sex since then either.

So I can't say it's a phenomenon I'm familiar with

Oh, yeah... I think my friends got your friend beat on the creep-o-meter by tenfold Sandow, so bring it :crackup:
 

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It can happen occasionally, but is certainly a bad way to go about it.

From what I've seen, the only times it works is:

1)The girl is not terribly attractive
2)The girl has very low self esteem
3) The girl has some problem and feels a HUGE need to hook up to boost her ego and make herself feel attractive. For example say she got dumped/cheated on by her boyfriend.



When girls get like this, sometimes pretty much any guy will do, its not about them being into him. So the creepy guy just happens to be available because he's constantly hitting on her, and for the above reasons, she'll follow up on his offer.

In this way I've seen guys get some action, but it never moves beyond that because she is not actually interested in him.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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