Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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The obsessive and creepy guys seem to do great with women, seriously

Demystify

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Seriously, I always hear about guys calling, texting, and messaging the same girl non-stop, without her responding, and they still seem to hookup with her in the end. has anyone else noticed this?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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tsmith2334

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Noticed it work maybe once in my life. Definitely not the norm.

Only reason it might be successful is if the guy abruptly cuts off contact and the girl begins to miss the attention.

Other than that, it's pretty much a sure way to fail at creating attraction.
 

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Also, don't forget "obsessive" and "creepy" are a matter of perception. To other rival guys, such behaviour may seem creepy but if the girl is really into him, then she may find it charming.
 

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Yeah, one of my theories is that when a girl says someone is "creepy" there is no real universal meaning for the term. Rather than scary behaviour, I think it can mean: AFC clingyness and desperation, unattractiveness, low social value. The last thing they mean is actual stalker like behaviour, and when they do it's usually perpetrated by the types mentioned before.

That said, just because it may work here and there doesn't mean that it's a valid strategy or an admirable way of life.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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i am me

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he could just be a baller with a nice phone that he likes to use alot
 

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Uhh i doubt it. My girl tells me about how creepy guys always trying to hit on her and say weird sh*t to her and stalk her and sh*t.
 

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I have a friend who's the creepiest guy ever and still hooks up. How I don't know. But he's very very persisitent. he's the guy at the bar who literally hits and gropes on every girl he sees. However mostly the girls are brutal. Or Mexican. lol just kiddin. sometimes he gets a hottie.

But I'm always thimnking how he breaks all the rules but still gets girls. If you think about it tho, getting girls is a numbers game. I'll put money on a normal looking guy hooking up if he approaches 10 girls in one night than a good looking guy approaching 1 girl in one night.
 

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I've never seen it happen. Believe me I had a friend who was THE creepiest guy alive. He creeped me out actually, and that takes some work. He was persistent, but all to no avail. He stayed a virgin until he was 25. I'm actually the person that got him layed.

It was actually tough work. It took a long time to find a girl that would f*ck him, and even then she took some convincing and she was far from attractive. I actually don't think he's had sex since then either.

So I can't say it's a phenomenon I'm familiar with

Oh, yeah... I think my friends got your friend beat on the creep-o-meter by tenfold Sandow, so bring it :crackup:
 

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It can happen occasionally, but is certainly a bad way to go about it.

From what I've seen, the only times it works is:

1)The girl is not terribly attractive
2)The girl has very low self esteem
3) The girl has some problem and feels a HUGE need to hook up to boost her ego and make herself feel attractive. For example say she got dumped/cheated on by her boyfriend.



When girls get like this, sometimes pretty much any guy will do, its not about them being into him. So the creepy guy just happens to be available because he's constantly hitting on her, and for the above reasons, she'll follow up on his offer.

In this way I've seen guys get some action, but it never moves beyond that because she is not actually interested in him.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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