narcissist
Master Don Juan
Day 9.
She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.
You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.
The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Keeping the stuff can be a way to have a hook on you. On the contrary if she's really eager to drop the stuff she's really done done with you. Just as a general observation. But maybe she's just busy and will do it next week. Or if you commanded her to drop it off this week she's trying to demonstrate power by doing it when she feels for it.My ex girlfriend was supposed to pick up her sh!t this week and drop off my sh!t, but she hasn't. It's slightly annoying because I want to cut all ties and all potential contact with her, so that I know for sure I won't be bumping into her. She is supposed to drop it off while I am not home and give it to my roommate but nothing has happened this week *rolls eyes*
Also I bumped into her friend at school yesterday. Actually it was a slightly odd situation. I was talking to my friend and her friend came up to me (I didn't even notice her) and she was acting really friendly to me (my friend even made a comment about it after she left). I played it off cool and was cordial and friendly. But she gave me a really tight hug when she left. I do feel as though she was gauging to see if I was affected by the break up or not so that she can relay that information back to my ex *double eye roll*
Oh well. I can't wait until I get my sh!t back and I know for a fact that she won't be coming to my house ever again.
Yeah, I did tell her that I wanted her to drop it off this week and to respect that, which she said she would, but she obviously didn't. Just another piece of evidence that this relationship is beyond repair. I am so glad to be out of it. Truly. Not just saying that to make myself feel or look better.Keeping the stuff can be a way to have a hook on you. On the contrary if she's really eager to drop the stuff she's really done done with you. Just as a general observation. But maybe she's just busy and will do it next week. Or if you commanded her to drop it off this week she's trying to demonstrate power by doing it when she feels for it.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Day 29Day 22
I just found this site after reading the rational male after a buddy turned me on to his website. Needless to say I was doing everything wrong In classic AFC fashion.
My ex broke up with me a month ago, but started texting me 8 hours later, and like a chump I answered her for 10 days. I even went to go get coffee with her the last day of contact, I felt like she was coming around. She even grabbed my hand when we were drying back to work and squeezed like she did when we were dating.
The next day she sent me a link to an article about vaping killing people. Now she is allergic to a lot of things, even a certain laundry soap that I was using.
I replied telling her that the day she told me about the laundry detergent that I started cutting back on the nicotine and had a plan on tapering it to zero and quitting, not just for her health; but because it annoyed the **** out of her. Haven’t heard a word from her since.
Such a classic opener, the past two breaks from NC that was almost exactly how she opened it. So you're not alone.Day 29
She texted me at 11:46 PM with “Hey. How are you doing?”
did not respond.
Such a classic opener, the past two breaks from NC that was almost exactly how she opened it. So you're not alone.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Does your ex know that you have a new gf?Such a classic opener, the past two breaks from NC that was almost exactly how she opened it. So you're not alone.
The time I wasn't ready to break NC it was helpful that it came in around 11pm when my GF and I had just settled into bed. So ignoring it was easy.
The most recent break came three months after that, at which point I was ok with texting for a little bit so I answered. That turned out to be a good thing, as I got some insight into the continuing train wreck that is her personal life, which tangibly reinforced that she did me a favor when she walked. That text session left things a little open, but a month later I've yet to hear back. Which is just fine.
Based on how the text conversation was going, I leaned more on being the receiving end of the information rather than divulging. In the course of the brief exchange she did ask whether there were "any new girls in the picture", but I opted to simply ignore the question and focus on other topics. She can read into that what she will.Does your ex know that you have a new gf?
Please follow up in this thread if you get something more in the future, just out of curiosity.
Day 30Day 29
She texted me at 11:46 PM with “Hey. How are you doing?”
did not respond.
I had the same read on this. If a beta guy did this while being ghosted, he would come off as needy and cringey.She is doubting her decision, for sure. It is driving her nuts, that you aren't responding, and she doesn't know what is going on with you, how you feel, if you are dating someone else. GOOD.
Like I told my buddy earlier today, she needs to sit in the corner for awhile and think about what she did.I had the same read on this. If a beta guy did this while being ghosted, he would come off as needy and cringey.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
She is doubting her decision, for sure. It is driving her nuts, that you aren't responding, and she doesn't know what is going on with you, how you feel, if you are dating someone else. GOOD.
Do your best to return to your exercise routine. it helps a lot with the healing process keeping your self busy with your normal routine is good for your mental state. Stoping doing your normal routine will contribute to dwelling on her contacting you.Day 25. Everything is off track, exercise, sleep, diet. I'm depressed. At times I long for her to contact me. I need to snap out of it.
I'm only suggesting you do this if you are 100% healed. If not ignoring her is perfect , stay the course of what you did. You handled this correctly. But for those who know me closely know i have a humours side to me.Day 29
She texted me at 11:46 PM with “Hey. How are you doing?”
did not respond.
And tell yourself this "she and her baggage are no longer your concern."Day 28.
Last 2-3 days have been tough. I knew from her friend (I didn't ask though) that she got fired and came back in town some days ago (when she watched my stories again she was already here). It's funny, because in my last message I wrote that I believed she would do great abroad, 'because you're great and beautiful and you will do well', something like that. I was so wrong, she is much worse than that, I guess it was my love writing... She got fired for not showing at work sometimes and going to work with hangover some otherAt least this is what she told to her friends, so I think there's even more s**t she didn't tell.
Now she has to pay back a great amount of money because she lost her scholaship, and her family isn't rich, so it's a very bad moment for her. Her friends are going to collect money to help her. This feels so bad because I sincerely care for her. But I am not going to do anything, not even wish her a happy birthday, which is soon. I'm having a hard time, I feel a lot of anxiety and mixed emotions, but she doesn't deserve my help and my affection right now, at least until she will understand her mistakes and be willing to cope, which won't happen.
Indeed. The sh*t I heard from the relatively brief text conversation last month was more f*cked up than I would have originally imagined. Very glad I don't have to deal with her personal failures anymore.And tell yourself this "she and her baggage are no longer your concern."
Her failures are just that. Hers and hers alone.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.