"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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The more you abuse them, the harder it is to let go.

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So many women struggle to leave an abusive man.

https://www.reddit.com/r/abusiverelationships/comments/1ocqsut
Notice how many of them say they've broken up and gotten back together more than five times.

No one talks about whether these women had any trauma that led to these dynamics.

Everyone blames the abusive man.
 

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Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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It is trauma bonding

most likely they are abusers themselves, or grew up in an abusive environment . Or both

A woman that does not tick any of this will never stay in a dynamic with an abusive guy
 

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i have known couples where the man is abusive to the women (physically and mentally). others where the men are strong and kind, and really support the woman. generally it doesn't matter the women still do what they do, only the reasons change.
 

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Everyone blames the abusive man.
Admitting outright:

"I wasn't a helpless 5 month old... I was 18+, and made a conscious choice to affiliate with bottom feeders, in no small part due to my being such a creature myself. I was dishing out a barrage of maltreatment onto my colleagues, waiters, baristas, anyone who wasn't likely to send me out of the building in a stretcher, even as I myself was being clobbered at home"

Can be uncomfortable. Therefore, most folks choose to NOT do so

Next, we'll discover that human fervor for individual liberty is, in actuality, more rare than the sight of tumbleweeds in Antartica. Most of us yearn for a messianic strong man who'll "protect" us from all events we find disagreeable in some way
 
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It is the pattern of creating pleasure and inflicting pain that creates deep wounds and makes a woman weak and dependent. When affection is repeatedly given and withdrawn, it creates anxiety and uncertainty. The alternation between feeling loved and fearing that love has been lost can strengthen the bond and make it harder to let go.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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It is the pattern of creating pleasure and inflicting pain that creates deep wounds and makes a woman weak and dependent. When affection is repeatedly given and withdrawn, it creates anxiety and uncertainty. The alternation between feeling loved and fearing that love has been lost can strengthen the bond and make it harder to let go.
From my experience the people whom get abused are abusers themselves, and usually it spans from their childhood. Even in the same relationship one second they get abused and the next one they are abusing the other person

it is more or less a power game

I never saw people coming from warm families being abused or abusing others
 

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i have known couples where the man is abusive to the women (physically and mentally). others where the men are strong and kind, and really support the woman. generally it doesn't matter the women still do what they do, only the reasons change.
Good point, it is not clear what is the meaning, would you elabtorate?
It is the pattern of creating pleasure and inflicting pain that creates deep wounds and makes a woman weak and dependent. When affection is repeatedly given and withdrawn, it creates anxiety and uncertainty. The alternation between feeling loved and fearing that love has been lost can strengthen the bond and make it harder to let go.
I can predict the future of that relationship: the body will start to give phisical signs.
Infact, there'll be that "revelation" moment, when that woman body in an abusive relationship, cannot tolerate what is happening, no more, so she will go.

It's like something I have with my father, whenever I hear his voice, my body get activated.
I never saw people coming from warm families being abused or abusing others
Until you know them, or get to spend at least a week with them (holiday, etc..)
There is this couple of friends that are perfect in public, but after I've spent 3 days with them on a travel, I saw their true souls behind the mask
 

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No one talks about whether these women had any trauma that led to these dynamics.
Everyone blames the abusive man.
I've noticed this too, the woman almost never gets blamed. I think it's because men tend to suffer in silence, while women will broadcast their side of the story all over social media.
 

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Good point, it is not clear what is the meaning, would you elabtorate?
haha, its a good point but don't' know what the point is. funny.

so the idea is that women do what they do regardless of the situations. if she is going to spend time with another man the reason can be because she is abused at home and looking for safety or escape. or it can be because she is bored at home and looking for excitement or escape. whatever is the situations will be the excuse and it will be the fault of the man.

either way her version of reality is just that; her version.

yes it happens, but i am very very skeptical of a woman making an accusation. the most gentle and kind can be pushed and manipulated into a response. very few humans understand self control but many understand how to trigger another.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Why people choose to remain with abusive partners, or break up and return are so varied, different and nuanced, it's impossible to narrow it down to one or two reasons.

However one reason which I think has at least some merit is that some women actually enjoy and "get off" on playing the "victim."

I put victim in quotes because in truth they are NOT a victim at all, they are making a conscious choice to stay, to relinquish their own agency which on some level could be considered a manipulation and/or in part gaslighting in its own right. Or both.

Sounds odd but they feel empowered by it; there is a great example of this in a powerful HBO series called "Big Little Lies" (season 1) specifically Celeste and Perry's relationship.

Celeste (Nicole Kidman) admitted as such to her therapist. She would subconsciously (or consciously?) provoke Perry, pushing his buttons, in one scene Perry actually screamed "Do you want me to hit you"!!?

She admitted in therapy she did as afterwards when he came crawling back, begging for forgiveness, she then became the powerful partner in complete control of the situation and him. It's a toxic dynamic but very real in some relationships where abuse is present.

From the Centers for Domestic Violence in my local area.

>>"Playing the victim can be a type of learned helplessness, something that can point to a case in which abuse has been present, or a kind of manipulation where the person being abused is minimizing their contribution to a situation for gains.

Sometimes, the reason they do this is to play on other people’s tendency to be caring, because when someone hears a sob story, they often express support, feel empathy for the individual, and want to help them. People also play the victim to avoid taking responsibility for something happening in their life. They prefer to blame others [i.e. their partner] instead of taking action to improve something [or themselves].<<"

There are many stories I have read about and personally observed, attesting to this.

Something to consider.
 
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