zekko
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This may be the smartest thing I've ever read on here.squirrels said:F**k what SoSuave thinks.![]()
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
This may be the smartest thing I've ever read on here.squirrels said:F**k what SoSuave thinks.![]()
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Mr. P,Mr.Positive said:Cheers man, tip the glass of scotch for me, and wish I could join ya with a cigar to celebrate.
zekko said:This may be the smartest thing I've ever read on here.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
I thought you got divorced recently, maybe it wasn't a year ago, but according to this thread two years ago http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=164423, not to mention you were referring to her as Mrs K and your daughter as Little K until that thread.KarmaSutra said:I've been divorced since May of 2005.
Moving too fast? Hardly. I've dated more women in the last 6 years than most men will in a lifetime.
All of those experiences lent a hand in my maturation process. So did most of you. I've walked away from some really terrific women.
They weren't what I want in a long-term mate. Now I've found one. Now I've found one I appreciate enough to include in my life.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
I was divorced before I became a member here.iqqi said:I thought you got divorced recently, maybe it wasn't a year ago, but according to this thread two years ago http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=164423, not to mention you were referring to her as Mrs K and your daughter as Little K until that thread.
I am confused?
I wouldn't call that perspective, but I'd call it clarification. So Mrs K wasn't really Mrs K? Just a LTR or something? What about Lil K?KarmaSutra said:I was divorced before I became a member here.
There's some perspective for ya.
You can't divorce an LTR.iqqi said:I wouldn't call that perspective, but I'd call it clarification. So Mrs K wasn't really Mrs K? Just a LTR or something? What about Lil K?
SO Mrs K, who you referred to as Mrs K up until 2009, wasn't Mrs K? That post you made about having balls to change your life was made in 2009, dude. You are fvcking CONFUSING the hell out of me.KarmaSutra said:You can't divorce an LTR.
We were married from 2000 to May 2005. Lil K isn't mine biologically but I was the only masculine presence in her life for over 13 years.
Now, not so much. Her Mother made her make a choice between staying in contact with me or doing whateverthefvck she wants, with whomever she wants, like her Mother.
She chose the easiest of the two possibilities. It's sad but her choice to make.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
You're simply confused. I have nothing to do with it.iqqi said:SO Mrs K, who you referred to as Mrs K up until 2009, wasn't Mrs K? That post you made about having balls to change your life was made in 2009, dude. You are fvcking CONFUSING the hell out of me.
I'll take that as a compliment Brother Booblicious.( . )( . ) said:Well for what it's worth, and that is nothing considering marriage today is as meaningful as pulling a booger.
Congrats?
Alright, well don't blame me for being confused. Here is another thread: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=139181 in which you referred to her as MRS K, not ex-Mrs K, and you were always referring to her as MRS K, until that post exactly two years ago, where you said you moved on.KarmaSutra said:You're simply confused. I have nothing to do with it.
Until a coupla' years ago we were still a familial unit. She has always been the ex-Mrs. K since I've been here.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.