zekko
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This may be the smartest thing I've ever read on here.squirrels said:F**k what SoSuave thinks.![]()
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
This may be the smartest thing I've ever read on here.squirrels said:F**k what SoSuave thinks.![]()
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Mr. P,Mr.Positive said:Cheers man, tip the glass of scotch for me, and wish I could join ya with a cigar to celebrate.
zekko said:This may be the smartest thing I've ever read on here.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
I thought you got divorced recently, maybe it wasn't a year ago, but according to this thread two years ago http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=164423, not to mention you were referring to her as Mrs K and your daughter as Little K until that thread.KarmaSutra said:I've been divorced since May of 2005.
Moving too fast? Hardly. I've dated more women in the last 6 years than most men will in a lifetime.
All of those experiences lent a hand in my maturation process. So did most of you. I've walked away from some really terrific women.
They weren't what I want in a long-term mate. Now I've found one. Now I've found one I appreciate enough to include in my life.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
I was divorced before I became a member here.iqqi said:I thought you got divorced recently, maybe it wasn't a year ago, but according to this thread two years ago http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=164423, not to mention you were referring to her as Mrs K and your daughter as Little K until that thread.
I am confused?
I wouldn't call that perspective, but I'd call it clarification. So Mrs K wasn't really Mrs K? Just a LTR or something? What about Lil K?KarmaSutra said:I was divorced before I became a member here.
There's some perspective for ya.
You can't divorce an LTR.iqqi said:I wouldn't call that perspective, but I'd call it clarification. So Mrs K wasn't really Mrs K? Just a LTR or something? What about Lil K?
SO Mrs K, who you referred to as Mrs K up until 2009, wasn't Mrs K? That post you made about having balls to change your life was made in 2009, dude. You are fvcking CONFUSING the hell out of me.KarmaSutra said:You can't divorce an LTR.
We were married from 2000 to May 2005. Lil K isn't mine biologically but I was the only masculine presence in her life for over 13 years.
Now, not so much. Her Mother made her make a choice between staying in contact with me or doing whateverthefvck she wants, with whomever she wants, like her Mother.
She chose the easiest of the two possibilities. It's sad but her choice to make.
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
You're simply confused. I have nothing to do with it.iqqi said:SO Mrs K, who you referred to as Mrs K up until 2009, wasn't Mrs K? That post you made about having balls to change your life was made in 2009, dude. You are fvcking CONFUSING the hell out of me.
I'll take that as a compliment Brother Booblicious.( . )( . ) said:Well for what it's worth, and that is nothing considering marriage today is as meaningful as pulling a booger.
Congrats?
Alright, well don't blame me for being confused. Here is another thread: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=139181 in which you referred to her as MRS K, not ex-Mrs K, and you were always referring to her as MRS K, until that post exactly two years ago, where you said you moved on.KarmaSutra said:You're simply confused. I have nothing to do with it.
Until a coupla' years ago we were still a familial unit. She has always been the ex-Mrs. K since I've been here.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.