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Someone in another thread suggested to hire some escorts to do some stuff with to make it look like you're in demand socially with women or even photoshop yourself into photos around cute girls or at events with rich people.

Age matters too. These women 35 on up are more hung up on careers if you read their profiles they point it out. Even when messaging they will ask what you do for a living right off the bat.

This is why I fudge my small business up on my profile to make me sound like I'm more wealthy and it seemed to increase my reply rate.
If you are on OLD, how would they know? Why not just go to a Meetup or dance club go and dance with the ladies and have a friend take some pics for you? Total cost: gas, some liquid courage and an entry fee. A hooker, STDs and a lot of $$$ for the same effect.
 

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6.) You are below 5’8. I’m sorry. There is a large female population who just isnt going to date you. It sucks, being under 5’8 doesn’t make you less of a man. The strongest kid I know is a 5’5 ex college wrestler. He would slam any 6’2 guy on his neck and ground and pound him till he is in a coma. But it’s just the reality of the dating game.

7.) You are anything other than black or white. It is what it is man, the number one sought after man is white. Even me as a black guy have accepted there is a good amount of women who wouldn’t date me, no matter what I say.. Brown/Asian/Dark Latinos are going to have an even larger segment of the population who just won’t date you. I apologize, is what it is.
The heightpill and the racepill are undeniable, I fear......

....only 6'+ Chad and Tyrone will score the hotties...

Amongst Latino guys, only the euro-looking Latino guys are slayers, the ones that are darker and more native looking dont do well.....

Asian men....well, game over man, game over.....
 

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If you are on OLD, how would they know? Why not just go to a Meetup or dance club go and dance with the ladies and have a friend take some pics for you? Total cost: gas, some liquid courage and an entry fee. A hooker, STDs and a lot of $$$ for the same effect.
The Meetup events in this area when I looked online and the meetup members profiles who attend them, well most of them looked like men and ladies who are at least 60 years of age. Even I won't touch 60 year olds man. Wouldn't that look bad dancing with a bunch of 65 year old hags at a meetup event?

Is there a website like meetup that caters to 18 to 23 year olds like this?
 
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Is height really an issue? I'm 5'7 with no shoes on and I've dated shorter women than me.
I've dated women taller than me. I don't prefer it, but if you're confident enough it can be done. I can tolerate about an inch taller than myself and then it feels weird.

I do know that Aaron Clarey's gf is taller than him, but I don't know by how much.
 

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Is height really an issue? I'm 5'7 with no shoes on and I've dated shorter women than me.
I would say it's the #1 factor in attraction for women

My best bud is hideous in the face but at 6"5 he's had hotties his entire life

Girls will sprint into the arms of random tall dudes, all shyness goes out the window. Women are polar opposites; they feel comfortable around bigger men and uncomfortable around small (creepy) men. Again, men will feel the exact opposite
 

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I would say it's the #1 factor in attraction for women

My best bud is hideous in the face but at 6"5 he's had hotties his entire life

Girls will sprint into the arms of random tall dudes, all shyness goes out the window. Women are polar opposites; they feel comfortable around bigger men and uncomfortable around small (creepy) men. Again, men will feel the exact opposite
I also don't like super short women. That hot cougar teacher listed herself 5-2 but seemed barely 5-1 and even at me just barely 5-9 it felt odd when she latched onto me because I still towered over her and had to look down. Granted her hot face I'd totally would smashed my d*ck still.
 

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Honestly, I hate this ****. I passed all of these, praise God, but it’s still sad to know that it’s true nonetheless.
 
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I would say social skills would be the most important. I've had handsome friends open their mouths and sound like retards and the women would run for the hills.

I've also had so called "ugly" guy friends who attract people everywhere they go. I envy them because sometimes I would get "first pick" of women but then I would see them gravitate towards my friend. I've never been the personality guy.

Social skills is needed for survival so it is a big part of your value.

If you don't have high emotional intelligence, your opportunities will be limited in all facets of life.

And women are experts at detecting EQ. They know a man from a manchild instantly. Likewise, confidence from insecurity, and freedom of expression from ego-protection. They were built with these radars so that they don't end up fvcking evolutionary dead end guys.

Also, they "feel" the repulsiveness from your behavior/vibe right away. There's nothing you can do to convince them otherwise.
 

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Regardless, I made a thread about this a while ago:

Just some other tips to add to that:
Regular pushups will broaden your chest. Idk why, but they just do. The key is the lockout though. If you don’t lock out your reps, you won’t benefit ****. Going lower just helps get that stretch in so it’ll probably enhance that effect I imagine. I do fingertip pushups for extra distance so yeah. Pushups will make your chest wide and broader overall. It won’t work/build the muscle as well as weights, but it’ll increase the size of your entire upper frame. Again, not sure why, but they do. Everyone I know who did hella pushups when they were younger ended up having broad upper skeletal frames. Gives you broad shoulders.
 

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I would say social skills would be the most important. I've had handsome friends open their mouths and sound like retards and the women would run for the hills.

I've also had so called "ugly" guy friends who attract people everywhere they go. I envy them because sometimes I would get "first pick" of women but then I would see them gravitate towards my friend. I've never been the personality guy.

Social skills is needed for survival so it is a big part of your value.

If you don't have high emotional intelligence, your opportunities will be limited in all facets of life.

And women are experts at detecting EQ. They know a man from a manchild instantly. Likewise, confidence from insecurity, and freedom of expression from ego-protection. They were built with these radars so that they don't end up fvcking evolutionary dead end guys.

Also, they "feel" the repulsiveness from your behavior/vibe right away. There's nothing you can do to convince them otherwise.
What about on OLD or texting game though? On OLD, like Match where you have to write messages at first, I noticed when I write well thought out messages that my reply rates would go up a lot. If I wrote half arse messages they would go down. Especially if the woman was more educated, attractive and older. Like writing a long, well thought out messages they'd even offer their numbers just after a couple replies.
 

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What about on OLD or texting game though? On OLD, like Match where you have to write messages at first, I noticed when I write well thought out messages that my reply rates would go up a lot. If I wrote half arse messages they would go down. Especially if the woman was more educated, attractive and older. Like writing a long, well thought out messages they'd even offer their numbers just after a couple replies.

If she isn't attracted to you, the right "text" game can possibly raise her interest level from a 2 to a 4. From your perspective, a 4 looks a lot. But there are guys in here life where she has an interest level of 9 and with them, the date is usually finalized within 4-5 brief texts.

Overall, I do not believe that solid text game is a strong needle mover.

You can certainly sound retarded and mess up. But you can't transcend low to middling interest.
 

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If she isn't attracted to you, the right "text" game can possibly raise her interest level from a 2 to a 4. From your perspective, a 4 looks a lot. But there are guys in here life where she has an interest level of 9 and with them, the date is usually finalized within 4-5 brief texts.

Overall, I do not believe that solid text game is a strong needle mover.

You can certainly sound retarded and mess up. But you can't transcend low to middling interest.
Posters on here say texting before a first date shouldn't be done a lot because you can say the wrong thing too easily and will know too much before the first date. I mean, on OLD sometimes after exchanging just two replies I'll ask for a number. I'd say 70 percent of the time they will offer it. I usually just use the excuse that It's easier for me because I'm not on the app a lot.

Also it lets you weed them out. That has saved me from a few land whales. I can then go on spy dialer and plug her number in and get her name. Then look her up on facebook and see if she's a landwhale. A few times this has saved me from a land whale date. Guys on here should do it more. They go on OLD dates and then complain they're 40lbs heavier and look 10 years older.
 
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I'm a legs, hips and as5 guy, if a girl dont got long sexy legs with curvy hips and a big as5 then i aint wasting any time or money on her..... Short women just dont fit the bill for me.....
 

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I'm a legs, hips and as5 guy, if a girl dont got long sexy legs with curvy hips and a big as5 then i aint wasting any time or money on her..... Short women just dont fit the bill for me.....
I like them skinny but dont care about arse or big boobs. Face is what I care about. Carrie Underwood isnt tall but I'd make her a 3 hole wonder!
 

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Hair is changeable. I pulled more ass when I shaved my head bald.

Height is definitely a limiting factor but it depends on the social context. Height is important in the club / bar scene but not in other metrics like speed dating or social networks.

For online dating, the way around height is to lie.

-If you’re 5’7 or shorter, you are 5’9 on your profile.
-if you’re 5’8-5’10, add 2 inches to your height
-if you are 5’11, use 6’
-if you are taller than 6’3, use 6’3.

If you’re blessed enough to be 6’0-6’3, your honest height will suffice.
I add 2” to my height on Tinder to get to 5’8”. That’s been fine.
My face saves me, so my lack of height is somewhat mitigated.
I haven’t found my height to hurt at clubs/bars.
I do wish I were 6’ though.
 

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I think the balding thing is not as bad as it was say 20 30 years ago. Many bald dudes for example the rock are dominating movies and appearing on magazines saying they are good looking etc. I'll say it dropped nearly half maybe up to 60 percent of a deal more so with older woman. Having a ugly face is bs, average ugly dudes with average physiques bagging booty. I've had multiple women tell me they like ugly dudes. Get ripped body fat around 10 to 15 percent, work on your personality and social skills, take up hobbies, have integrity, confidence and be personable and funny and you'll bang hot women
 

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The heightpill and the racepill are undeniable, I fear......

....only 6'+ Chad and Tyrone will score the hotties...

Amongst Latino guys, only the euro-looking Latino guys are slayers, the ones that are darker and more native looking dont do well.....

Asian men....well, game over man, game over.....
Wow do you live in a tent city? Dark skin Latinos have been bagging Caucasian women like no ones business. I've seen them make white women act Latina and change their accent and style of dress and personality along with hair color.
I've seen Caucasian women say white men are plain looking and white Latinos look g@y and soft etc.
 
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