Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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The "Grown Folks" Forum is Back!

Survivor

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Ok men, I campaigned hard for this forum so let's not screw this up. Now I'm not gonna sticky any "ground rules" or "Mature Man's DJ Bible" or any crap like that. As older men and as veteran posters we should be above and beyond that. All I ask is that you support the forum, stay on topic, and behave like the "mature man" that you claim to be.

Enjoy!
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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MacAvoy

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I think this is great to have an older DJ's forum. I think we have a totally different set of priorities / goals than the teenage DJ's in the main forum. However I would encourage the posters in here to still help out the younger DJ's as well.
 

JustDoItAlways

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Being an immature Mature man, I plan to hang out here more often if it takes off.

The main board just continues over and over again with the same topics over and over again starting from the "does she like me" posts.

Lets see if this forum can retain some "memory."
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Chrispy

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It's good to have this forum.
So I'll start by calling for all 25+ to talk about where to meet girls, when you've finished school and live the worker's life?
I for one have found so far that when you break the regular groove and go to a social function, that's when the opportunities begin! Thoughts?
 

bp1974

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:) :) :) :) :)
 

NMMWCR

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Nice replacement for the Unusual Techniques - SS Jedi Mind Control board. :D
 
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Ahhh a breath of fresh air...Thank you very much. If I see one more kid doing the office love thing or how do I get this girl back I was ready to heave!
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Genghis Juan

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I must admit that I really like the way this board is going so far. The discussions are definitely more sophisticated and relevant to the post-college experience of life. Particularly to the 20-somethings struggling to deal with the new reality of life after college: the fact that it is there for the taken, otherwise you totally miss out.
 

Helter Skelter

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What a great idea.

I can't stand seeing sixteen year olds giving dating advice to guys a lot older then they are.
This whole place was turning into a high school forum.
Now their is a place to escape to.

Good job Survivor.
 

Gangster Of Love

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Great idea. Although, did they really have to eliminate the Unusual Techiniques forum? and how long before the younger AFC's invade this forum too, and start giving us advice. :)
 

new_juan

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Great work.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Austin Allegro

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I have a problm pls help me guyz. HB9 in my classs (she has b/f) but her frnd told me she thinks I'm cute and after math she smiled at me and siad I'm a nice guy but more like her brother but what about this is it a good sign she said come to her place she's having a bbq i'm like ok she wants me to do the cooking oh and also bring the beer and I have to cleen the place b4 i go so her b/f and she can make out that's cool but I needd to know if this girl likes me and how to get her to dump hr b/f cuz I'm in love with her real bad.

:D

Just kidding. Great new forum!
 

Bungo Pony

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Hey all, figured I'd pop in here.

I think we have a totally different set of priorities / goals than the teenage DJ's in the main forum.
Isn't that what the high school forum was for? I really can't believe how much this place has mutated since I've joined (or even since I last posted!).
 

Blue-eyed Devil

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This seems like it has potential. Can't promise I'll be a regular again, but I can always learn something while sandbagging.
 

Hot Ice

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As the main forum changed from The Don Juan Forum to The Average Frustrated Chump Forum, this has been a really refreshing forum.
Thanks.

If this goes afc, I think we should create a newbie forum and advanced forum... but that's not a concern yet.
 
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