The Expressive Men - Spaz Insights

[Spaz]

So I am an Expressive according to you? Or something else?

Yes, u r an Expressive.

 

[Spaz]

I understand what you wrote but not the graph itself. Move toward more passivity, lower dominance, higher EQ? But still, very interesting.

As expected from an intellectual.

And the answer is yes.

As an example, let's take photography, a typical geeky nerd will know the in and outs of all the technical aspects of photography, what lens to use, the proper lighting etc, even better then any famous photographer could ever be but he will fail to win any awards or recognition simply because a natural has one thing going for him - a highly developed EQ to capture that right moment and bring out that right emotion/beauty to fore.

Makes sense now?

 

[Spaz]

@Spaz I have no clue what you wrote or how your charts work, I’ve tried.

EQ?
A?
B?
C?
D?

Is it something about boobs?

Why does it look like you was stonned when you wrote this?

Hahaha

I missed ur name huh...

Yes, u r here too amongst the Expressives.

 

[ubercat]

Let me get this straight Biblebelt who s hobby is attracting young Daddy issue girls 4 Japanese rope bondage sessions he s a passive?

As for me I freely confess my weaknesses are probably introversion and EQ. Been working on those a while not easy to fight your nature. So how am I expressive.

I remember Myers Briggs was scientifically studied and found to have little correlation. Zodiac has been disproven many times.

Great thread I'm not throwing rocks.

Spaz if you ve got some evidence to back your theories I would honestly be really interested.

 

[Spaz]

Let me get this straight Biblebelt who s hobby is attracting young Daddy issue girls 4 Japanese rope bondage sessions he s a passive?

As for me I freely confess my weaknesses are probably introversion and EQ. Been working on those a while not easy to fight your nature. So how am I expressive.

I remember Myers Briggs was scientifically studied and found to have little correlation. Zodiac has been disproven many times.

Great thread I'm not throwing rocks.

Spaz if you ve got some evidence to back your theories I would honestly be really interested.

I'm 101% certain @biblebelt is an Expressive.

He is of course welcome to deny it.

You on the other hand will read the next 3 installation; The Intellectual Man, The Mystery Man and The Motivational Man.

Then let me know which one fits you.

As for Myers Briggs and the zodiac, those practitioners will do well to read up what I'm going to post at a later date and by the end of it, they'll be greater then before.

R there anyone else that I've mentioned here not agreeable to my profile of ur personality ?

 

[Alvafe]

I do recomend you write everything before we start any discussion about it, you said when you post everything it will be clear, then do so before anything

btw if the order follows that would mean i'm the motivational?

 

[Spaz]

btw if the order follows that would mean i'm the motivational?

Hahaha

Let's wait for everything then. I'm on a week's leave to recharge and will post when I have access to my laptop.

 

[Spaz]

Forgot to add in @HankHill and @Howiestern

Both of you are Expressives.

 

[The Duke]

@Spaz I think it would help to further explain more traits/characteristics of an expressive personality as well as the other categories.

Feel free to correct me if I am wrong, but this type of personality assessment is used in business/sales? Seems very similar to what you have posted.

https://blog.bretthard.in/the-four-different-personality-types-9366bfefde16

https://www.retaildoc.com/blog/personality-test-are-you-a-driver-expressive-analytical-or-amiable

Most people are never 100% in any single category. I'm expressive(extroverted, little fear, somewhat big personality, creative, can get people to do what i want easily) as you picked up on, but I also have an analytical side(thinker, good listener, don't talk too much, use data to drive decision making, focused, driven, organized, self motivated, engineering mind, task oriented) which tempers some of those more emotional traits that you typically see in artists and actors. Professions that involve a technical aspect along with working with people is a good fit for me. Examples: Technical Sales, Project Development, Project Manager.

I see you list PUA's as being expressive. I certainly have little issues seducing women once I get them around me. I will use a little flash, style, charm, and boldness to my advantage.

Perhaps this info further confirms or changes your conclusion?

Good Stuff!

 

[Spaz]

@Spaz I think it would help to further explain more traits/characteristics of an expressive personality as well as the other categories.

Feel free to correct me if I am wrong, but this type of personality assessment is used in business/sales? Seems very similar to what you have posted.

https://blog.bretthard.in/the-four-different-personality-types-9366bfefde16

https://www.retaildoc.com/blog/personality-test-are-you-a-driver-expressive-analytical-or-amiable

Most people are never 100% in any single category. I'm expressive(extroverted, little fear, somewhat big personality, creative, can get people to do what i want easily) as you picked up on, but I also have an analytical side(thinker, good listener, don't talk too much, use data to drive decision making, focused, driven, organized, self motivated, engineering mind, task oriented) which tempers some of those more emotional traits that you typically see in artists and actors. Professions that involve a technical aspect along with working with people is a good fit for me. Examples: Technical Sales, Project Development, Project Manager.

I see you list PUA's as being expressive. I certainly have little issues seducing women once I get them around me. I will use a little flash, style, charm, and boldness to my advantage.

Perhaps this info further confirms or changes your conclusion?

Good Stuff!

It doesn't change my conclusion nor will it negate my narratives here.

If u r what you say then u r straddling partially within the The Motivator quadrant with ur dominant traits firmly inside The Expressive.

Those skills are what you're learned and picked up on but it's not ur natural skill set hence you won't be really great at it - and that cannot be denied no matter how you wish it so.

You'll never be as great an engineer that The Mystery man is capable off nor will you be as great an analyst (numbers) as The Intellectual is capable off - you can be good in those fields but never near those predisposed towards it, I think you know this to be so and need me to confirm it.

 

[The Duke]

It doesn't change my conclusion nor will it negate my narratives here.

If u r what you say then u r straddling partially within the The Motivator quadrant with ur dominant traits firmly inside The Expressive.

Those skills are what you're learned and picked up on but it's not ur natural skill set hence you won't be really great at it - and that cannot be denied no matter how you wish it so.

You'll never be as great an engineer that The Mystery man is capable off nor will you be as great an analyst (numbers) as The Intellectual is capable off - you can be good in those fields but never near those predisposed towards it, I think you know this to be so and need me to confirm it.

True, good but not great. Natural at nothing.

 

[Spaz]

True, good but not great. Natural at nothing.

Oh that's where many mistake an Expressive, u r a natural and will be great at it at ur given natural tendencies.

You see beauty where none can see it as u r privileged to experience it FULLY.

Ur gifts is 1/4 of the true form/power of Masculinity.

The perception that many hold about masculinity is false.

Masculinity in its true form is all the 4 quadrants TOGETHER.

Love my friend is ur power, it creates art to remind humanity of the beauty of life, it creates movies so that the rest of humanity doesn't go mad.

You are important as the rest of The Expressives.

I will elaborate further when I'm back from my short break. It's a b1tch typing out from my phone for a long winded post as I did with this thread.

 

[Murk]

I’m expressive, but I can’t do 0 dominance it’s not and never has been me. I’m quite a fiery character too.

 

[Spaz]

I’m expressive, but I can’t do 0 dominance it’s not and never has been me. I’m quite a fiery character too.

I don't think anyone can achieve 0 dominance, perhaps near to it.

Once near 0 dominance, a man within ur quadrant has attained almost God like powers.

What is power ?

 

[zekko]

I'm sure I must be Intellectual.

I could see that if I fully embraced my tendencies, I might be more content (I'd be in my comfort zone) and could excel in those areas. But the problem I see there is that I have always had to battle my weaknesses and shore them up, otherwise in real life they end up hampering me too much.

 

[Spaz]

Yes. Salieri vs. Mozart.

Can't beat the Italians at their game.

 

[Spaz]

I'm sure I must be Intellectual.

I could see that if I fully embraced my tendencies, I might be more content (I'd be in my comfort zone) and could excel in those areas. But the problem I see there is that I have always had to battle my weaknesses and shore them up, otherwise in real life they end up hampering me too much.

Yes u r an intellectual.

Fortunately for you, you're manage to stay at the border of the expressives.

Many of ur breathens has aspired to be there and been there but swung the opposite direction towards the border with the mystery man - that's where all the incels, mgtow and fringe groups congregate.

Ur quadrant is fuelled into excellence by obsession, an ego much like the expressives yet not have the emotional depth to handle it, and rage plus hate is the byproduct.

 

[Murk]

I don't think anyone can achieve 0 dominance, perhaps near to it.

Once near 0 dominance, a man within ur quadrant has attained almost God like powers.

What is power ?

No dominance at all?

Are we talking with women? I fluctuate between dominant and chill, best relationships I’ve had are once I’ve established dominance early.

Men: when I assert dominance I’m called aggressive, defensive, loose canon.

My natural state is passive and calm, I’ve only established an aggressive dominant nature with other men due to situations growing up (see kindness for weakness). I’m naturally happy go lucky, sensitive, peaceful, emotional, empathic... it’s the people I encounter that force me to go to the other side, because I refuse to be taken for a punk in any shape or form.

You’re right. It’s not natural to me. Idealistically everyone would be on my wave length, but people (see men) are constantly testing, pushing boundaries. Am I to accept a lower place? Never. I’m worth the same as any man, this will never change. I’m happy escalate a situation to confrontation because sleeping at night thinking “I’ve been wronged” got boring 10 years ago.

 

[Spaz]

No dominance at all?

Are we talking with women? I fluctuate between dominant and chill, best relationships I’ve had are once I’ve established dominance early.

Men: when I assert dominance I’m called aggressive, defensive, loose canon.

My natural state is passive and calm, I’ve only established an aggressive dominant nature with other men due to situations growing up (see kindness for weakness). I’m naturally happy go lucky, sensitive, peaceful, emotional, empathic... it’s the people I encounter that force me to go to the other side, because I refuse to be taken for a punk in any shape or form.

You’re right. It’s not natural to me. Idealistically everyone would be on my wave length, but people (see men) are constantly testing, pushing boundaries. Am I to accept a lower place? Never. I’m worth the same as any man, this will never change. I’m happy escalate a situation to confrontation because sleeping at night thinking “I’ve been wronged” got boring 10 years ago.

Part of ur gifts includes acting out a certain role - as in being dominant much like an actor portrays in the movies.

There's pro's and con's.

Ultimately, it's you that decides which path to take, my thread here is to make one such as yourself to embrace the diversity within ur quadrant and how best you could benefit from it.

 

[zekko]

Fortunately for you, you're manage to stay at the border of the expressives.

Many of ur breathens has aspired to be there and been there but swung the opposite direction towards the border with the mystery man - that's where all the incels, mgtow and fringe groups congregate.

Assuming you are correct (and I have no reason to believe you aren't), I had to fight for it. I had to fight my own tendencies to get to the border of the expressives.