"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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The end of dinner dates

skinnyguy

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We need to stop taking women to dinner. If we do, we just fuel their ego that they can manipulate us and get a free meal.

In 2017, the guy that gets laid is the guy that spends $0 on women. Now sure you could go out and find some sugar baby to bang you, but it won't be because they like you and it won't last long. To get a girl to actually like you, you cannot spend money at all or else she will lose respect for you.

Girls now realize that a guy who offers to take them to dinner has no options and is therefore a loser. They want the azz who pumps and dumps them cause that shows he's not a pvssy who seeks approval from women.

After you've made a girl your gf and she treats you well, then sure spend money on her. But if we are talking about the initial chase, be as cheap as possible.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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marmel75

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We need to stop taking women to dinner. If we do, we just fuel their ego that they can manipulate us and get a free meal.

In 2017, the guy that gets laid is the guy that spends $0 on women. Now sure you could go out and find some sugar baby to bang you, but it won't be because they like you and it won't last long. To get a girl to actually like you, you cannot spend money at all or else she will lose respect for you.

Girls now realize that a guy who offers to take them to dinner has no options and is therefore a loser. They want the azz who pumps and dumps them cause that shows he's not a pvssy who seeks approval from women.

After you've made a girl your gf and she treats you well, then sure spend money on her. But if we are talking about the initial chase, be as cheap as possible.
I haven't done that in over 20 years now, I have no earthly idea in this day and age why ANYONE would still be taking women out to dinner on a first date...
 

foolyoufool

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What are your first date suggestions then? Usually I go for ice cream or fro-yo as a first date, it's cheap and quick.
 

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Yep and dinner should be at yours for the second and she brings the wine.
 
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