"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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The end of dinner dates

skinnyguy

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We need to stop taking women to dinner. If we do, we just fuel their ego that they can manipulate us and get a free meal.

In 2017, the guy that gets laid is the guy that spends $0 on women. Now sure you could go out and find some sugar baby to bang you, but it won't be because they like you and it won't last long. To get a girl to actually like you, you cannot spend money at all or else she will lose respect for you.

Girls now realize that a guy who offers to take them to dinner has no options and is therefore a loser. They want the azz who pumps and dumps them cause that shows he's not a pvssy who seeks approval from women.

After you've made a girl your gf and she treats you well, then sure spend money on her. But if we are talking about the initial chase, be as cheap as possible.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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marmel75

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We need to stop taking women to dinner. If we do, we just fuel their ego that they can manipulate us and get a free meal.

In 2017, the guy that gets laid is the guy that spends $0 on women. Now sure you could go out and find some sugar baby to bang you, but it won't be because they like you and it won't last long. To get a girl to actually like you, you cannot spend money at all or else she will lose respect for you.

Girls now realize that a guy who offers to take them to dinner has no options and is therefore a loser. They want the azz who pumps and dumps them cause that shows he's not a pvssy who seeks approval from women.

After you've made a girl your gf and she treats you well, then sure spend money on her. But if we are talking about the initial chase, be as cheap as possible.
I haven't done that in over 20 years now, I have no earthly idea in this day and age why ANYONE would still be taking women out to dinner on a first date...
 

foolyoufool

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What are your first date suggestions then? Usually I go for ice cream or fro-yo as a first date, it's cheap and quick.
 

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Yep and dinner should be at yours for the second and she brings the wine.
 
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