ladiesman217
Don Juan
I met this girl, she likes me, I like her. I told her I liked her and I know she likes me. Then I brought up relationships and she made up some bs about not wanting one. Why did this kill so much attraction?
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
The biggest mistake about being honest
- Thread starter ladiesman217
- Start date
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
ameya905
Don Juan
Oh come on!
Tell me, if the chick REALLY liked you, why would she not want a relationship?
And man, you jumped in too soon. A relationship without casual dating? Well, chances are she was spooked.
How? Were there any legit IOI's? Anyway she failed the ultimate interest test i.e. Wanting a relationship.ladiesman217 said:I know she likes me.
Tell me, if the chick REALLY liked you, why would she not want a relationship?
And man, you jumped in too soon. A relationship without casual dating? Well, chances are she was spooked.
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This is why. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8pIKj5427Q
ladiesman217
Don Juan
ameya905 said:How? Were there any legit IOI's? Anyway she failed the ultimate interest test i.e. Wanting a relationship.
Tell me, if the chick REALLY liked you, why would she not want a relationship?
And man, you jumped in too soon. A relationship without casual dating? Well, chances are she was spooked.
There were tons of iois, she started texting conversations almost everyday, she always was touching me, she always wanted to see me and hang out even after seeing me earlier that night, she was always laughing at my jokes even when they got messed up, I brought up sex and she confltinued the topic. The list goes on, I KNOW she was attracted to me. I'm in high school, there isn't a difference between a causal relationship and a relationship... Or is there? You said she was spooked, tell me more about what you mean there.
You showed that you're more invested in her than she is in you.ladiesman217 said:I met this girl, she likes me, I like her. I told her I liked her and I know she likes me. Then I brought up relationships and she made up some bs about not wanting one. Why did this kill so much attraction?
Plain and simple, always be LESS invested than the polar to stay attractive.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
ladiesman217
Don Juan
How do I do that?
Uh that's a big 5 word question.ladiesman217 said:How do I do that?
The core of it is: stop caring. Or, not even that, just care less than she does.