"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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the appeal of narcisists and sociopats

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Do you mean that women are actually settling down?
 

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Women aren't directly attracted to narcissists and sociopaths they're attracted to qualities that those men tend to possess ie rock-solid frames.
 

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rock-solid frames.
I agree with you.
And I also think these rock-solid frames don't come from a place of security, but insecurity.
For us men, all that matters is understanding where that security comes from.
But I don't think women can tell the difference.
 

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I agree with you.
And I also think these rock-solid frames don't come from a place of security, but insecurity.
For us men, all that matters is understanding where that security comes from.
But I don't think women can tell the difference.
That's the most frustrating part. Women don't really understand men on a fundamental level, due to their solipcism and projection. They only react to the behaviors and then make up post-hoc explainations in order to convince themselves they've "figured him out".

While it is true that woman can sniff out insecurity/neediness etc, I think they are equally likely to get blindsided by a man who completely controls the frame. I'm convinced now that frame control (and it's primary downstream effect, compliance) is the single important factor for maintaining attraction and respect.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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tesla8520

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They only react to the behaviors and then make up post-hoc explainations in order to convince themselves they've "figured him out".
This is interesting! Do you have examples?
I'm convinced now that frame control (and it's primary downstream effect, compliance) is the single important factor for maintaining attraction and respect.


It is! But there's something to add. When a woman cheats on the man who has had the most emotional power in her life, and then, they eventually keep the couple, she may still be controlled by his frame, but in my opinion there's no longer any admiration. There may be respect for the situation, but not admiration or desire.

also, from personal experience, if you're a man that can control the frame with a specific woman, this doesn't mean that will work with another one too. Curious about your experience on this
 

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Given the state most of us are in today, a fellow like this

Seems like top-of-the-line mating
 
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