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the appeal of narcisists and sociopats
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FlexpertHamilton
Master Don Juan
Women aren't directly attracted to narcissists and sociopaths they're attracted to qualities that those men tend to possess ie rock-solid frames.
I agree with you.
And I also think these rock-solid frames don't come from a place of security, but insecurity.
For us men, all that matters is understanding where that security comes from.
But I don't think women can tell the difference.
FlexpertHamilton
Master Don Juan
That's the most frustrating part. Women don't really understand men on a fundamental level, due to their solipcism and projection. They only react to the behaviors and then make up post-hoc explainations in order to convince themselves they've "figured him out".
While it is true that woman can sniff out insecurity/neediness etc, I think they are equally likely to get blindsided by a man who completely controls the frame. I'm convinced now that frame control (and it's primary downstream effect, compliance) is the single important factor for maintaining attraction and respect.
Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
This is interesting! Do you have examples?
It is! But there's something to add. When a woman cheats on the man who has had the most emotional power in her life, and then, they eventually keep the couple, she may still be controlled by his frame, but in my opinion there's no longer any admiration. There may be respect for the situation, but not admiration or desire.
also, from personal experience, if you're a man that can control the frame with a specific woman, this doesn't mean that will work with another one too. Curious about your experience on this