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I have considered this as well...

On one hand, a man says he does not need a woman and lives his life fully without women.

Then on the other hand, that same man devotes a significant amount of time and energy to attaining a plethora of women.

There seems to be quite a paradox between those two trains of thought. It's like saying, "I dont need ice cream", but then eating it every other day.
I normally agree with ur postings Roober.

This is where we differ in thoughts and more likely in experiences/knowledge.

I've often mentioned that men in general can be categorised into one of the 4 personality traits.

Passive = Expressive and Intellectual

Dominants = Doers and Motivators

Glass dude here is a Doer ( I'm going by my interactions with him in this forum).

A doer is someone who is a loner, like a specialist of sorts.

They thrive in engineering, law, as surgeon, as a skilled warrior, etc. A doer will find the quickest and most effective method to get things done.

They can mix well in social settings but prefers to stay apart of it for most of their lives as it bores them.

But doers are dominants by nature and as such are more predisposed to be dismissive of women.

It's not that he enjoys spinning just for the sake of spinning, he is in all actuality scanning for the best mate - it's just that he has not found one up to his standards.
 

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Maybe so because my parents have been together for about 30 years and my grandparents for about 60 and they've had their differencies, but they always managed to pull through.
I have a theory that those of us who were raised by parents who had good marriages are more open to the idea of relationships than other guys. I don't care for your idea of cheating on your girlfriend though, assuming she thinks you are exclusive (which is what it sounds like).

It almost sounds like you are saying you have to be unethical in order to succeed with women (i.e. which in itself is immoral because it's a fornication, but that's another story that I won't get into for the purpose of this thread, so there is no "Christian - friendly" version of plates that does not involve sin which makes it irrational with me on all levels).
It depends on how you define plates. I tend to think of plates as at least having the potential for a sexual relationship.
However, theoretically you could have plates without having sex with them. I don't know why you would see anything immoral about that. You could casually "date around" without making commitments.

I knew a girl who had very, very strict religious parents. They insisted that their daughter date around, and would not allow her to get "serious" with any one boy. I guess they thought this would prevent her from having sex. Well, not bloody likely in this day and age, but there are some people out there who hold that point of view.
 

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I don't care for your idea of cheating on your girlfriend though, assuming she thinks you are exclusive (which is what it sounds like).
I don't know what you mean by "I don't care" in this case, but yes, I am cheating on her, but I am also heading very close to not cheating on her anymore. In one year with her I went from 4 plates to 2 to only her in due time.
 

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I don't know what you mean by "I don't care" in this case, but yes, I am cheating on her, but I am also heading very close to not cheating on her anymore. In one year with her I went from 4 plates to 2 to only her in due time.
Are any of them hot?
 

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I don't know what you mean by "I don't care" in this case, but yes, I am cheating on her, but I am also heading very close to not cheating on her anymore. In one year with her I went from 4 plates to 2 to only her in due time.
And what if she finds out that you are cheating on her, or if you drop all your plates and then finds out that you were cheating on her?
I guess guys here will think that will just make her admire your "alpha-ness", but if the girl has any self respect she will dump you.
But hey, abundance mentality, who cares, right?

Really, what you do is none of my business, but I don't believe in cheating, personally. I know a lot of guys think differently.
 

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And what if she finds out that you are cheating on her, or if you drop all your plates and then finds out that you were cheating on her?
I guess guys here will think that will just make her admire your "alpha-ness", but if the girl has any self respect she will dump you.
But hey, abundance mentality, who cares, right?

Really, what you do is none of my business, but I don't believe in cheating, personally. I know a lot of guys think differently.
She's possibly fvcking other guys also.
 

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She's possibly fvcking other guys also.
Maybe, I don't know what the arrangement is. I suppose Lizardking could argue "We never said we were exclusive" (if that's the case), but just from the sound of things it doesn't sound like that's what her understanding is. But I could be wrong, or she could be shady, who knows?
 

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It depends on how you define plates. I tend to think of plates as at least having the potential for a sexual relationship.
However, theoretically you could have plates without having sex with them. I don't know why you would see anything immoral about that. You could casually "date around" without making commitments.
Like you said, it depends how you define plates. People in this board define prospects as women where there is a potential that it could go somewhere. The Christian or Biblical way would only see sexual relationship within a marriage. Its quite clear that spinning plates fornication is involved. Multiple prospects would mean you have options, especially if you are into one particular woman and it doesn't work out at the end of the day so you are not in some kind of dry-spell afterwards. There is no issue with having options, but spinning plates is a different concept.

You see, I thought even this this board has some sort of ethics. Like if you were talking about spinning plates (and I'm not justifying that in principle, but just for argument's sake), that it was some Friends with benefits, multiple LTRs, but not actually lying and cheating with proper girlfriend / wife material women. Well it's good that the whole idea is trashed on this tread. If you are spinning plates you are a cheater and are making some euphemism so you feel sophisticated about it. Why would you be proud with lying and cheating on a good women though? You can't really have a real relationship based on lies. People are actually proud of this because they have access to pvssy. It's disgusting if you look at it.
 

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Like you said, it depends how you define plates. People in this board define prospects as women where there is a potential that it could go somewhere. The Christian or Biblical way would only see sexual relationship within a marriage. Its quite clear that spinning plates fornication is involved. Multiple prospects would mean you have options, especially if you are into one particular woman and it doesn't work out at the end of the day so you are not in some kind of dry-spell afterwards. There is no issue with having options, but spinning plates is a different concept.

You see, I thought even this this board has some sort of ethics. Like if you were talking about spinning plates (and I'm not justifying that in principle, but just for argument's sake), that it was some Friends with benefits, multiple LTRs, but not actually lying and cheating with proper girlfriend / wife material women. Well it's good that the whole idea is trashed on this tread. If you are spinning plates you are a cheater and are making some euphemism so you feel sophisticated about it. Why would you be proud with lying and cheating on a good women though? You can't really have a real relationship based on lies. People are actually proud of this because they have access to pvssy. It's disgusting if you look at it.
Single track mind.

No wonder u r having difficulties in living ur life.

Once you shackle ur mind you have basically limited urself.
 

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You mean if you were Black you would have the same rotation?
Racial profiling is basically a weak man's tool to assuage his own fears and incapability.

This is largely a feminine trait.
 

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Seems like too much work. I’m a busy man
 

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She's not ****ing other guys. You guys have a way to twist everything, but OK, go ahead, not gonna try and stop you.
 

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She's not ****ing other guys. You guys have a way to twist everything, but OK, go ahead, not gonna try and stop you.
If you've read this forum, you know that there are some guys who always think EVERY girl is banging somebody behind your back. It sounds like you find the idea of her banging someone else unappealing, but I might point out that is what you are doing.
 

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If you've read this forum, you know that there are some guys who always think EVERY girl is banging somebody behind your back. It sounds like you find the idea of her banging someone else unappealing, but I might point out that is what you are doing.
Yeah, I've noticed that.

I am turning from a 4 woman spinner to a girlfriend guy. It doesn't happen overnight.
 

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Yeah, I've noticed that.

I am turning from a 4 woman spinner to a girlfriend guy. It doesn't happen overnight.
It does if you are born again. However the way you are now this is who you are and you cant change yourself. But you will probably lose all of them if you get born again to be honest. Why should I care about the affairs of sinners?
 
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You need to build a rotation. Plain and simple.
I do that.

Even then, the best of us has leakage and or erosion. Baeeeees want to be playing house, built a nest, leaves bridal magazines around, leaves article of clothing just for a excuse to come back, etc.

Glass mate, i pulled some barely legal bae eons ago. Years later, her and others will try to slip into my DMs. [/QUOTE]

Get out of that mindset of "I am looking for that special woman". It doesnt work. This isnt the Disney channel fellas. Of course we ALL would like to find that unicorn that we get along with to have a good LTR with, thus even more reasons why a rotation is so important.
So many cucks think its Disney on ice lulz
A solid rotation of 3-4 chicks will:

Eliminate the neediness of wanting a woman's (singular) attention all of the time.
-Eliminate the over texting/calling
-Create mystery
-Develop an abundance mindset
-Put the women you are spinning in hyper gear to chase you
-You wont follow dating "rules" because you actually will stop giving a shyte. You will do what you want. Why? Because you can get away with it. If one doesnt like it, who cares. She is out or at least on the back burner. Move on to your other plates.
-You will naturally build the confidence that you need from abundance that attracts more women. The rich do get richer in this game. Thats a fact.
-Your frame will be stronger

Building a rotation is not that hard but it IS work.

You have to:

-Properly screen to avoid wasting time and money on useless dates.
-Keep the first few "dates" to drinks only. What happens after you grab a few drinks depends on the chemistry/vibe
-You MUST be clear that you are "talking to other people" so you dont wind up looking like a liar. When women ask me if I am talking to other people, I simply
say that "I am freshly single and talking to a few but exploring my options". I say that no matter how long I have been single. You must create the illusion that
you are open to a relationship with the right person but not in a rush.
-You MUST MUST MUST be willing to walk away. Thats the beauty of a rotation. If one acts disrespectful, its easy to initiate S&D and create space. You have
other options when you have a rotation.

I was once the guy that wasnt a manipulator or cheater. I dont view spinning plates in my rotation as cheating or manipulating. I make it clear that I am talking to other people. Its her choice if she wants to see me again.

I know many of you guys cringe at the thought of getting "caught up" in talking to multiple women. Trust me, it drives them mad because they LOVE the turmoil and competition. If many other women want YOU, they will too. It increases the value in her eyes.

Take the plunge. Build a rotation. I try to go out with a new chick once a week or at the least once every 2 weeks. I need good replacements for my weakest plate in case I need to bounce her from the rotation.

Thats the beauty.

Just food for thought that works for ME.

Everyone have a great weekend.
Hotter are turning 18 19 20 21 every day.

This herein lies the coubter balance to hypergamy.

Pull, smash rotten, and go get baeeeees. Purely for sport. #nextSet #micdrop

There's no end game.
 

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This thread is pretty much proof how people here can manipulate everything into whatever they want to believe just to appease their own fragile egos. I'm not talking about OP @Glassguy or the topic but most of the posts made over the last 7 pages.

Claims that I often see made on this site are:

1. You can't possibly be banging a hot chick...un-possible! you're lying.
2. If you are, then she must be cheating on you, you're getting cucked, she's low SMV, she's hit the wall, wants your money, she's using you while waiting for some Alpha guy to show up.

Wow if this is not a self-defeating thinking I don't know what is. You're conditioning yourself into believing that you can't possibly find a decent woman ever aka you don't deserve a decent woman. Ironically, whatever your mind believes, that's what it achieves.
 

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Claims that I often see made on this site are:

1. You can't possibly be banging a hot chick...un-possible! you're lying.
2. If you are, then she must be cheating on you, you're getting cucked, she's low SMV, she's hit the wall, wants your money, she's using you while waiting for some Alpha guy to show up.
You see the same guys making the same observations on real life. Any couple they ever see cannot possibly be happy.

To be fair, this site (and the pickup culture in general) pushes plate spinning extremely hard. So hard that a lot of guys get the impression that plate spinning IS the end game. And it can be, if that's what the guy wants. But you can also spin plates in order to find a suitable girlfriend, and there's nothing wrong with that either. Some guys get so focused on being the super macho alpha player, they forget that.
 
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