"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Was at work, another campus from the one I take my classes at. See a girl from one of my classes who I’ve never talked to. Had seen her before maybe shared two words and that was it. She approaches me and says. Hey didn’t know you came here, I said I don’t. I work here
Talked for about 30 minutes some flirting she was very open and told me she was done for the day. But wasn’t in a hurry as she kept on talking and talking. I was working so cut it short, asked for her number. Set up a coffee date for tomorrow.
It’s that easy
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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marmel75

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Was at work, another campus from the one I take my classes at. See a girl from one of my classes who I’ve never talked to. Had seen her before maybe shared two words and that was it. She approaches me and says. Hey didn’t know you came here, I said I don’t. I work here
Talked for about 30 minutes some flirting she was very open and told me she was done for the day. But wasn’t in a hurry as she kept on talking and talking. I was working so cut it short, asked for her number. Set up a coffee date for tomorrow.
It’s that easy
You had me until you said coffee date...zzzz....zzzzz....zzzzz
 

Dash Riprock

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You had me until you said coffee date...zzzz....zzzzz....zzzzz
Nothing wrong with a coffee date. 30-60 minutes tops. Either he likes her or he doesn't and he's not spending big $$. It's smart. Maybe they're both underage. They can go somewhere else if things go well or he can cut the date. Not so easy on an activity or dreaded dinner for the first date.

Coffee or 1-2 drink dates are the best choice for a first date. Don't try to impress. Let her impress you. Keep it short. Don't oversell.
 

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Nothing wrong with a coffee date. 30-60 minutes tops. Either he likes her or he doesn't and he's not spending big $$. It's smart. Maybe they're both underage. They can go somewhere else if things go well or he can cut the date. Not so easy on an activity or dreaded dinner for the first date.

Coffee or 1-2 drink dates are the best choice for a first date. Don't try to impress. Let her impress you. Keep it short. Don't oversell.
There is everything wrong with coffee dates they are boring...maybe if you are one of those artiste types then I guess that's the best you can come up with...snoozefest
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Coffee dates, booze dates, adult video store dates :D, they all trump "no" dates! who cares. Do what works for you. Not everybody likes the same thing!

I once took a $tripper on a second date to the adult video store. Spent $5 to make the video play for 30minutes and $20 for the guy to clean the room after we were done!

Even took a girl to a $trip club for a first date one time. I didn't give a schitt what she thought or if she blew me out for even suggesting it. It was close by, nice place, and if she didn't show or was a biatch at least I enjoyed myself.
 
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There is everything wrong with coffee dates they are boring...maybe if you are one of those artiste types then I guess that's the best you can come up with...snoozefest
They're as boring as you make them.

If you cannot hold a conversation, use humor or keep things interesting, yes, you will be boring. What I'm saying is anything more time or $-wise is a dumb move for a first date.
 

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Was at work, another campus from the one I take my classes at. See a girl from one of my classes who I’ve never talked to. Had seen her before maybe shared two words and that was it. She approaches me and says. Hey didn’t know you came here, I said I don’t. I work here
Talked for about 30 minutes some flirting she was very open and told me she was done for the day. But wasn’t in a hurry as she kept on talking and talking. I was working so cut it short, asked for her number. Set up a coffee date for tomorrow.
It’s that easy

umm but how do you look? are you muscular?


in my case coffee dates are usually ok but there was one disaster (or one and half) and after that i stopped them (sh111t ***** was boring af and i was locked there with her while she wasnt saying anythin) , not to mention, you can do much more if you go for a date walking in park in the evening, especially if they close you there, you can mingle kiss n cuddle, n stuff, you scare your girl that you will leave her here and jump off the fence, then you catch her when she jumps. much better. i pull same **** on every date LOL
 

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They're as boring as you make them.

If you cannot hold a conversation, use humor or keep things interesting, yes, you will be boring. What I'm saying is anything more time or $-wise is a dumb move for a first date.
Drinks and action(pool/darts) is my prference...or walk in the park/ice cream when nice out...

Not big on sitting down in one spot and talking with nothing else to do
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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@ImTheDoubleGreatest! she gave me props for the idea and told me it took some balls to throw it out there. Date went well. We went out once after that, never had sex. She got too needy too fast so I quit asking her out. Girl was ex-military and pretty hardcore, nothing sweet & submissive about her personality which is a turn off for me. I'm certain she wasn't a "quality" girl. lol. All I wanted back then was "hot & fun".
 
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@ImTheDoubleGreatest! she gave me props for the idea and told me it took some balls to throw it out there. Date went well. We went out once after that, never had sex. She got too needy too fast so I quit asking her out. Girl was ex-military and pretty hardcore, nothing sweet & submissive about her personality which is a turn off for me. I'm certain she wasn't a "quality" girl. lol. All I wanted back then was "hot & fun".
Haha. A girl in the military. I hope we never get attacked.
 
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