"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Was at work, another campus from the one I take my classes at. See a girl from one of my classes who I’ve never talked to. Had seen her before maybe shared two words and that was it. She approaches me and says. Hey didn’t know you came here, I said I don’t. I work here
Talked for about 30 minutes some flirting she was very open and told me she was done for the day. But wasn’t in a hurry as she kept on talking and talking. I was working so cut it short, asked for her number. Set up a coffee date for tomorrow.
It’s that easy
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Epicurus said:
Was at work, another campus from the one I take my classes at. See a girl from one of my classes who I’ve never talked to. Had seen her before maybe shared two words and that was it. She approaches me and says. Hey didn’t know you came here, I said I don’t. I work here
Talked for about 30 minutes some flirting she was very open and told me she was done for the day. But wasn’t in a hurry as she kept on talking and talking. I was working so cut it short, asked for her number. Set up a coffee date for tomorrow.
It’s that easy
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You had me until you said coffee date...zzzz....zzzzz....zzzzz
 
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marmel75 said:
You had me until you said coffee date...zzzz....zzzzz....zzzzz
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Nothing wrong with a coffee date. 30-60 minutes tops. Either he likes her or he doesn't and he's not spending big $$. It's smart. Maybe they're both underage. They can go somewhere else if things go well or he can cut the date. Not so easy on an activity or dreaded dinner for the first date.

Coffee or 1-2 drink dates are the best choice for a first date. Don't try to impress. Let her impress you. Keep it short. Don't oversell.
 
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Dash Riprock said:
Nothing wrong with a coffee date. 30-60 minutes tops. Either he likes her or he doesn't and he's not spending big $$. It's smart. Maybe they're both underage. They can go somewhere else if things go well or he can cut the date. Not so easy on an activity or dreaded dinner for the first date.

Coffee or 1-2 drink dates are the best choice for a first date. Don't try to impress. Let her impress you. Keep it short. Don't oversell.
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There is everything wrong with coffee dates they are boring...maybe if you are one of those artiste types then I guess that's the best you can come up with...snoozefest
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Coffee dates, booze dates, adult video store dates :D, they all trump "no" dates! who cares. Do what works for you. Not everybody likes the same thing!

I once took a $tripper on a second date to the adult video store. Spent $5 to make the video play for 30minutes and $20 for the guy to clean the room after we were done!

Even took a girl to a $trip club for a first date one time. I didn't give a schitt what she thought or if she blew me out for even suggesting it. It was close by, nice place, and if she didn't show or was a biatch at least I enjoyed myself.
 
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There is everything wrong with coffee dates they are boring...maybe if you are one of those artiste types then I guess that's the best you can come up with...snoozefest
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They're as boring as you make them.

If you cannot hold a conversation, use humor or keep things interesting, yes, you will be boring. What I'm saying is anything more time or $-wise is a dumb move for a first date.
 
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Epicurus said:
Was at work, another campus from the one I take my classes at. See a girl from one of my classes who I’ve never talked to. Had seen her before maybe shared two words and that was it. She approaches me and says. Hey didn’t know you came here, I said I don’t. I work here
Talked for about 30 minutes some flirting she was very open and told me she was done for the day. But wasn’t in a hurry as she kept on talking and talking. I was working so cut it short, asked for her number. Set up a coffee date for tomorrow.
It’s that easy
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umm but how do you look? are you muscular?


in my case coffee dates are usually ok but there was one disaster (or one and half) and after that i stopped them (sh111t ***** was boring af and i was locked there with her while she wasnt saying anythin) , not to mention, you can do much more if you go for a date walking in park in the evening, especially if they close you there, you can mingle kiss n cuddle, n stuff, you scare your girl that you will leave her here and jump off the fence, then you catch her when she jumps. much better. i pull same **** on every date LOL
 
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Dash Riprock said:
They're as boring as you make them.

If you cannot hold a conversation, use humor or keep things interesting, yes, you will be boring. What I'm saying is anything more time or $-wise is a dumb move for a first date.
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Drinks and action(pool/darts) is my prference...or walk in the park/ice cream when nice out...

Not big on sitting down in one spot and talking with nothing else to do
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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@ImTheDoubleGreatest! she gave me props for the idea and told me it took some balls to throw it out there. Date went well. We went out once after that, never had sex. She got too needy too fast so I quit asking her out. Girl was ex-military and pretty hardcore, nothing sweet & submissive about her personality which is a turn off for me. I'm certain she wasn't a "quality" girl. lol. All I wanted back then was "hot & fun".
 
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@ImTheDoubleGreatest! she gave me props for the idea and told me it took some balls to throw it out there. Date went well. We went out once after that, never had sex. She got too needy too fast so I quit asking her out. Girl was ex-military and pretty hardcore, nothing sweet & submissive about her personality which is a turn off for me. I'm certain she wasn't a "quality" girl. lol. All I wanted back then was "hot & fun".
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Haha. A girl in the military. I hope we never get attacked.
 
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