Started dating an older women with kids

[niceguytoalphamale]

@sangheilios if I was a girl I would of friendzoned you after you saying how about tommorow lmao

 

[MatureDJ]

I have no idea, women just don't like me at all. I'm 6'4", broad shouldered, fit, handsome, respectable, educated, have a 5 figure crypto portfolio and on a good potential career path right now. I've used OLD and tinder and get literally 0 matches or replies to my messages.

Women ghost on me all the time, lead me on and I get nothing at the end of the day......yet go for guys that aren't like me. I honestly don't get it.

I actually haven't heard from this woman in a couple days.....so naturally I've been ghosted again lol. Oh well, such is the life for the perfect catch and now this thread is irrelevant.

I would say that you are a FaceCel. Are you bald?

 

[mrgoodstuff]

If you asked 13 “baby daddies” why it didn’t work out they would say it was the moms fault. That’s an unfortunate part of the human condition, quick to point out the folly of others, rarely themselves.

Some of the moms didnt want a man in the house. Thats never factored. Half the time its the woman and the other half its the man. Some of the women chose a sperm donor unbeknownst to the man. Thus once impregnated the job was done.

 

[corrector]

I have no idea, women just don't like me at all. I'm 6'4", broad shouldered, fit, handsome, respectable, educated, have a 5 figure crypto portfolio and on a good potential career path right now. I've used OLD and tinder and get literally 0 matches or replies to my messages.

What is your race?

 

[corrector]

Your vibe is shlt. Bottom line.

Vibe > Looks
Vibe > Money
Vibe = (Perceived) Status

I have friends, completely average looks, average money with incredible vibe and kill it EVERY time we go out with young hot women.

I have a Chad friend who feels relegated to older women as he is not secure in his own vibe for the young ones.

It’s all vibe. Until you get this, you’ll continue scraping dust.

Because your mind is a dungeon, you need to
get some “blood” in: ugly, fat, whatever, take them ALL in and build that vibe. Then your blindfolds will come off.

Vibes are overrated. Obviously they can be altered by spraying pheromones. You can spray "status" pheromones which make you be perceived as higher value as well. You have some types of pheromones that influence how you are thinking as well and vibing out. For something that can be changed by a bottle of perfume it's not that big of a deal. Can google this stuff. I tried some limited experiments on this back in 2011 and again December 2013 before eventually quitting.

One thing is interesting about the pheromone experiments, I did manage to get into a relationship the subsequent year, and meet someone and get married when I tried it again in December 2013. However, neither was directly related to pheromones, but it's an interesting coincidence. Maybe it could be helpful for the OP, maybe not, but you don't know if you don't try.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Some of the moms didnt want a man in the house. Thats never factored. Half the time its the woman and the other half its the man. Some of the women chose a sperm donor unbeknownst to the man. Thus once impregnated the job was done.

Vibes are overrated. Obviously they can be altered by spraying pheromones. You can spray "status" pheromones which make you be perceived as higher value as well. You have some types of pheromones that influence how you are thinking as well and vibing out. For something that can be changed by a bottle of perfume it's not that big of a deal. Can google this stuff. I tried some limited experiments on this back in 2011 and again December 2013 before eventually quitting.

One thing is interesting about the pheromone experiments, I did manage to get into a relationship the subsequent year, and meet someone and get married when I tried it again in December 2013. However, neither was directly related to pheromones, but it's an interesting coincidence. Maybe it could be helpful for the OP, maybe not, but you don't know if you don't try.

Vibes trigger feelings which trigger attraction.

 

[guru1000]

Vibes are overrated. Obviously they can be altered by spraying pheromones. You can spray "status" pheromones which make you be perceived as higher value as well. You have some types of pheromones that influence how you are thinking as well and vibing out. For something that can be changed by a bottle of perfume it's not that big of a deal. Can google this stuff. I tried some limited experiments on this back in 2011 and again December 2013 before eventually quitting.

One thing is interesting about the pheromone experiments, I did manage to get into a relationship the subsequent year, and meet someone and get married when I tried it again in December 2013. However, neither was directly related to pheromones, but it's an interesting coincidence. Maybe it could be helpful for the OP, maybe not, but you don't know if you don't try.

Incorrect.

Vibe = How you think + Your Intent

Think for a moment of spinning plates which creates the abundant vibe. If you are spinning 3 girls, for example, your intent is totally free of need for the 4th batter up because you already have 3 in your sphere.

Your thinking too, which is influenced by your intent, will also be one of, “let’s see if you can make it to the harem, let’s see what you got.”

Both the thinking and the intent will emanate in your body language, mannerisms, sub-communications a/k/a vibe/energy—which is basis of all attraction.

Without vibe, you have shlt.

 

[corrector]

Vibes trigger feelings which trigger attraction.

If I'm desperate enough I'd just buy them and spray them on to change my vibe. Which I feel they have in the past.

 

[corrector]

Incorrect.

Vibe = How you think + Your Intent

Think for a moment of spinning plates which creates the abundant vibe. If you are spinning 3 girls, for example, your intent is totally free of need for the 4th batter up because you already have 3 in your sphere.

Your thinking too, which is influenced by your intent, will also be one of, “let’s see if you can make it to the harem, let’s see what you got.”

Both the thinking and the intent will emanate in your body language, mannerisms, sub-communications a/k/a vibe/energy—which is basis of all attraction.

Without vibe, you have shlt.

If you have never tried pheromones out then you can't really say if they work or not at altering your vibe, or masking your vibe so that women are receiving a different type of vibe then your native vibe, which is the goal of this whole thing.

You are suggesting a catch-22 to an incel-tier OP. It's like advising a homeless man that he should get a mansion rather than sit there so he'll be able to front collateral for a bank loan and be able to afford a lavish vacation. Do you realize how insensitive that sounds?

If you can't alter your native-vibe then you have to mask it and project an alternative vibe. This can be accomplished by chemical manipulation of the olfactory senses in the female brain through the use of pheormones. With the assistance of pheromones you can subcommunicate a vibe that, you are a high-status male, have a great attitude, and have no problems getting women, even if that's contrary to the native vibe. At least pheromones don't need a catch-22 to try out, and the OP don't sound broke to me. It's not an expensive social experiment for the OP to try out.

 

[sazc]

@LiveYourDream @lamath are yous sensing what I'm sensing? I can sense alot of negativity and self defeating from OP. @sangheilios I'm currently exclusive with a HB9 and we had a argument we are day 10 no contact and I'm doing just fine not being negative etc: you really have to stop this victim mentality otherwise you won't move forward with your dating skills etc: it's all about trial and error. Remember when there are numerous losses there is a win. You were winning until you expressed your annoyance about her ignoring you. Now she views you as weak and you probably won't get a response and she will avoid you like the fuking plague in the gym. Want to know something really harsh? Her and her friends would be sitting back laughing about what she did and your response. When really she should be sitting back 6 months from now with her friend crying and saying how much of a a.s.shole you are and asking the question? Where have all the nice guys gone? Make sense ok? For fuk sake.. this HB9 is posting status about me and telling her friends I'm a a.s.shole she also has a white knight friend constantly telling him about the hell I put her through.

UR in a 'monogamous relationship' and on 10+ days of no contact because you had a disagreement?

A) that's NOT a relationship, that's two egos fighting for the sole place of superiority. You've already lost any hope of leading and/or alpha male status.

B) by now she doesn't consider herself in a relationship. She's entertaining any other dude who swings her way.

 

[guru1000]

If you have never tried pheromones out then you can't really say if they work or not at altering your vibe, or masking your vibe so that women are receiving a different type of vibe then your native vibe, which is the goal of this whole thing.

You are suggesting a catch-22 to an incel-tier OP. It's like advising a homeless man that he should get a mansion rather than sit there so he'll be able to front collateral for a bank loan and be able to afford a lavish vacation. Do you realize how insensitive that sounds?

If you can't alter your native-vibe then you have to mask it and project an alternative vibe. This can be accomplished by chemical manipulation of the olfactory senses in the female brain through the use of pheormones. With the assistance of pheromones you can subcommunicate a vibe that, you are a high-status male, have a great attitude, and have no problems getting women, even if that's contrary to the native vibe. At least pheromones don't need a catch-22 to try out, and the OP don't sound broke to me. It's not an expensive social experiment for the OP to try out.

No catch 22 at all.

Spinning plates is an ACT which creates a vibe.

One can create a vibe without the act, although here we preach vice versa.

One can CHOOSE to think differently.

One can CHOOSE to change his/her intent which will influence his/her thinking.

Both of these CHOICES operate independently of (nor do they rely on) the ACT.

It begins with the Intent though. What is your intent?

 

[mrgoodstuff]

If I'm desperate enough I'd just buy them and spray them on to change my vibe. Which I feel they have in the past.

A steady source of sex where the man is desired is really good for the vibe.

 

[sangheilios]

@sangheilios Don't offer another date when she says no. How about tommorow is gay! And so is when are we going hiking just stop bro you should of said "ok" and left it at that and never messaged her again. Until she reached out.

Whatever, it's a long time ago and really nothing wrong with what I had said. I posted that as an example of the fact I'm not really doing anything wrong, I wanted to show that I'm not sending pages of texts and calling her constantly. Seriously, there was nothing wrong with texting that.....as I said, just another example of a woman who used me for attention and validation.

Also, what you text really isn't all that important. If a woman wanted to go out on a date what I had texted there as an example is not really all that big of a deal....seriously.

If you read that story and saw those texts how you can blame me for that? That particular ***** went out of her way to ask me out on a date just to ghost on me lol. How is that my fault?

 

[sangheilios]

What is your race?

I'm a darker caucasian, a lot of people think I'm spanish or Italian.

 

[sangheilios]

You, like many men, are mistaken.

I meant that in a more general sense, nothing I text is the issue, check out the examples and the screenshot I had given. That woman went out of her way to ask me out on a date just so she could ghost on me, how is that my fault? LOL

 

[sazc]

I meant that in a more general sense, nothing I text is the issue, check out the examples and the screenshot I had given. That woman went out of her way to ask me out on a date just so she could ghost on me, how is that my fault? LOL

Example
A few months ago I went in a few dates with a local pediatrician. In the end I felt he was gruff, brash and judgemental so I let things die. Recently I found myself in a bind for some anti nausea medication for my kids (anti car sick) so I reached out to him to see if the expired stuff I had would be okay. He offered to write me a new script. I was grateful, offered to take him to dinner, he said "yes!". Figured I would see if things maybe could work.

I have been reaching out over text for the past few days, initiating over random topics, just trying to get casual conversation/contact going. Hoping (once again) to connect.

Guess what? He's been gruff, brash and judgemental. I'm thinking he doesn't realize how he comes across over text, OR he is "IDGAF, this is who I am".

I now find myself wondering WHY I want to spend any time with him. Seems like it would be more enjoyable, less stressful, to stay home alone. It's not the $ I would spend on dinner, it's the idea that I'm going to spend time with someone who's company isn't enjoyable.

I initiated, proposed a date and, because if the way he comes off, am considering ghosting.

Beware the text and verbal game

 

[corrector]

No catch 22 at all.

Spinning plates is an ACT which creates a vibe.

One can create a vibe without the act, although here we preach vice versa.

One can CHOOSE to think differently.

One can CHOOSE to change his/her intent which will influence his/her thinking.

Both of these CHOICES operate independently of (nor do they rely on) the ACT.

It begins with the Intent though. What is your intent?

You are kidding right? The OP can not spin plates if women are ghosting him. Like I said catch-22. Unlike BigDave he is not even holding out but is dealing with anyone.

 

[corrector]

I'm a darker caucasian, a lot of people think I'm spanish or Italian.

Can we see a pic of how you look like? I am trying to pin something on your looks for lack of success but you are checking out so far. We need to see your face.

 

[corrector]

I meant that in a more general sense, nothing I text is the issue, check out the examples and the screenshot I had given. That woman went out of her way to ask me out on a date just so she could ghost on me, how is that my fault? LOL

Treat this women ghosting thing as a fact of life and it wont bother you. Dont have any expectations if it is under 3 dates. These women act on their feelings and they may be into you one day but forget about you the next with no explanation at all.

 

[sangheilios]

Are you here to be right and/or justify your experience?? Or to learn and grow and get results??

With all due respect, until you resolve that and are willing to give up the one for the other, you are wasting everyone’s time here, imho.

I'm talking about previous experiences that I know were not my fault at all, I just by chance encounter women that are bat**** crazy and inconsiderate. I'm repeating myself because I feel like everyone seems to act as if it is my fault that these women are doing all these things when I'm not even doing anything in the first place. They are the ones asking me out, initiating kisses and physical contact and much more yet they are also the ones ghosting.

I'm not being overly physical on first dates, blowing up their phones with text messages or phone calls. For example, if I was on a first date and I tried shoving my tongue down a woman's throat I could understand why she wouldn't like that. I'm not doing stuff like that.