So if a woman doesn't pay she isn't considered "cheap" according to you? If we still lived in the early 20th century, where women could not work yes men should pay. We are now in the 21st century, women cannot have their cake and eat it too.
Why do some of you insist on 'going back in history' when talking about a topic here?
Because he specifically mentioned "tradition". If are going down that route, I can very easily bring up a lot of traditions women no longer follow. Simple ones like wearing dress, how many women these days even dress like a proper woman?
Nope. Men and women are not equal thus there are double standards.
Because 'traditionally,' men have happily exchanged cash for sex.
Nah This is just trad folks like eyebrollin that get a dopamine rush from paying for girls. Makes him feel like a man. I quite like how things are where girls spend their money on me
I rather use that money to visit another brothel, probably works out to be cheaper. Seriously $120 dinner plus a hotel room would really add up over time.
It doesn't seem like his really trad though, nothing trad about dating. Someone who is really traditional would only engage in courtship that leads to marriage.
In what sense are men and women not equal in 2021? Please elaborate.
...aaaand there you go, jumping to the extreme of 'it would really add up over time.'
Regardless of what he says, are you going to agree with him?
I really doubt it. It's more like he knows (or thinks) that without spending money on women, he'd still be a virgin.
Don’t get cute. Physiologically and psychologically men and women are not equal. I don’t know why you would even think of arguing the contrary.
Classless. Here you go again thinking etiquette has anything to do with getting laid. It’s possible to be cheap and still get pvssy. Won’t help in other areas of life though.
How is it "deranged" to think that a woman should be traditional and stay at home to clean and cook for her man...but not "deranged" to think that as a man, you have a moral obligation to pay for a woman's food and alcohol? Also, I really like your use of gynocentric shaming lingo. Anyone who disagrees with double standards that favour women is "classless" and a "cheap fvck"
What the hell does that have to do with paying for food and alcohol though? Are you suggesting that women are "physiologically and psychologically" unable to pay their share?
Out of curiosity, how do you expect a woman to contribute to the dating relationship besides just "showing up". Do you expect women to cook and clean for you in return?
You are only proving my point...this woman isn't your friend and you don't know her, she is a stranger. Once you DO know her, most of the time some splitting takes place.
It's like you're trying to 'fight the system' and re-write human nature. Enough with the bleeding heart already.What the hell does that have to do with paying for food and alcohol though? Are you suggesting that women are "physiologically and psychologically" unable to pay their share?
That is a strawman argument. I never suggested the contrary, as I agree that women should be traditional.
Man leads. Man pays the bill. Woman submits. That is the natural order. Her ability to pay has nothing to do with this.What the hell does that have to do with paying for food and alcohol though? Are you suggesting that women are "physiologically and psychologically" unable to pay their share?
Absolutely. I require women to cook and clean as bare minimum. You guys are just looking for excuses to be cheap.
