"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Speed Seduction not for the mature man?

Paradox

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Just a theory her but I can already seen that there is a sentiment developing that SS is not really for the mature man.

What do you guys think?

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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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I disagree. If the science works for one, then it should work for all. I've been told by street pimps that I have been using it for years on a natural level, just as they do without realizing that some white guy had coined it and canned it and marketed it and is making a ton of money from it...lol
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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I use a few of the SS strategies but I mix up a lot of different theories. The core of it all though is Doc Love's System.
 
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Never read any material on Speed Seduction - all I know is that these hos today are ready to go by the third date, if that long!!
 

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SS works better on older chicks because they have the experience to relate to what you are saying.

Younger chicks are more into seeking the next stimulus.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Originally posted by Player_Supreme: I disagree. If the science works for one, then it should work for all. I've been told by street pimps that I have been using it for years on a natural level, just as they do without realizing that some white guy had coined it and canned it and marketed it and is making a ton of money from it...lol
Yeah, if a guy spits some pimpology some socalled "mature" persons will look at him funny but if someone with a Phd in psychology writes a book called "psychology and dating" which contains the technique of pimpology, it will sell like hot cakes.

Deciding to listen to the b!tching and misconstrued perceptions of 25+ websurfers instead of looking at seduction from a scientific standpoint, is the downfall of this forum...
 

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If by SS you mean the NLP based stuff of running "patterns" and "imbedding commands", then I'd have to say it doesn't belong in this forum. Any woman who is so easily deluded into accepting a false reality is not going to appeal to me on an intellectual level.
 

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some of the SS is valid, but in concept moreso than in the tactics. i ripped off RJ's endless dribble off usenet and listened to some of them.

as Playa' said, true DJ's already do this stuff. when they listen to RJ and the like, it's like "yeah, so what?"

seduction in general is what you should focus on. most of it is non-verbal, unlike the Speed Seduction stuff.
 

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The underlying rationale for Speed Seduction is to make the chick feel something, to give her some romance, to take her into another world that is not as boring as her current mundane life. This gets her wet, makes it more likely that she will drop her deals and makes it easier for her to fall for you if you're looking for an LTR.

Mature men on this forum will remember something called "sweet talk" which was and still is the best way of getting laid. Speed seduction is just another form of it.

Chicks need and want romance, especially older women. Not the "give her flowers" romance but the "make her feel something" romance. Rapport, excitement, escape, anything (but horny is better.)

Your girlfriend needs it as much as your ONS needs it.
 

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I'm pretty sure Speed Seduction works well for Ross and he is a mature man. He's in his 40's now and probably was in his late 20's or 30's when he started it...
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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