"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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after discussion with many of you mature men forum posters, and discussion in the chat room... i have come to the conclusion that there needs to be a new sort of bootcamp here on the board.
not exactly the same kind as the dj bootcamp which a guy goes on 8-12 weeks where he experiences speaking to women in social settings up to the point that he is hitting on them at clubs and stuff like that. kinda seems like they all say the same lines in each of their field reports.

no, what we need is a completely different type. one that helps this younger generation, look inside themselves and straighten out their lives before they start trying to pursue all these women. some of these guys have no fathers, or brothers . some of them have ocd and other issues.

can we pull together as a community here, and put something together that these guys can have as a basic start , when it comes to look for inner growth?

we can also find some of the good threads and attach the links on previous discussions that would be helpful also?

what do you say homies?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I'm down like a flat tire!

I'll look for and list some suggested threads to get a foundation started.

I think this has been a long time coming.

Good job Kitty!
 

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Victory Unlimited...reporting for DUTY!


Sign me up, Pentagon Chief PENKITTEN. I'll make some time and contribute some things for the cause.

Peace...TODAY.
 

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"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Penkitten, let me know the subject you want me to shed light on and I'll write it! Make it a good one - a deep one!
 

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karma i have no idea how you were able to make the links the way you did and call them what you wanted to...
i would like to do that with the links i had
 
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Penkitten, How did karma do that soooooo fast - is he part of the NSA AT&T surveillance grid i.e. Google???
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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penkitten are you using the link button (globe with the chain link)?
 

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Man, you can't overstuff it with too many epic inspiring words! Guys are going to be asking "okay, what do I do now? Right now?"

Warboss is a fine step-by-step. I just took a look at the old bootcamp, and you should not just go to machine gun approaches right away. Really the first week should be working on trying to look good (gasp!) since that will help everything else so much. Get better clothes, work on your body language with a video camera, stuff like that.

I understand putting yourself out there, but so many folks in the PUA community are hailing from NYC, LA, and Florida. For the rest of us, doing 50 approaches is just not an option.

Here's more like what I'm thinking.
 

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Last Man Standing said:
Penkitten, let me know the subject you want me to shed light on and I'll write it! Make it a good one - a deep one!
perhaps you could just write a little something explaining how you became a man who is happy and confident.
thats a good start i guess.

we just need to put something together to show this younger generation that you must be your own foundation before you go off to the mall to attempt to make small talk with 50 ladies in hopes of getting a phone number.
 

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penkitten are you using the link button (globe with the chain link)?
no reset, i didnt use that . i will try to change it in a little bit.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Great idea.

penkitten said:
no, what we need is a completely different type. one that helps this younger generation, look inside themselves and straighten out their lives before they start trying to pursue all these women. some of these guys have no fathers, or brothers . some of them have ocd and other issues.

can we pull together as a community here, and put something together that these guys can have as a basic start , when it comes to look for inner growth?


what do you say homies?

I think it is an excellent idea. Many here need more "life" skills than DJing skills. Getting women is the easy part. Dealing with the Pandora's Box of emotions of everyday life is the real challenge.



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romangod said:
I think it is an excellent idea. Many here need more "life" skills than DJing skills. Getting women is the easy part. Dealing with the Pandora's Box of emotions of everyday life is the real challenge.



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yes!! so if you want to write something or find a few of your favorite old threads, please add them to the link ok.
 

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penkitten said:
yes!! so if you want to write something or find a few of your favorite old threads, please add them to the link ok.

Okay, here's a link that might help get some people started.

http://www.essentiallifeskills.net/knowyourself.html


This is my sister's web site and she is one of the coolest chicks I know. My brother-in-law is very lucky to be married to her for 25 years although she says she's very lucky to have him. Her premise is that there are essential life skills we need to know to have a happy and fullfilling life. She explores many areas on her site. It is definitely worth a look.


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Phyzzle said:
Man, you can't overstuff it with too many epic inspiring words! Guys are going to be asking "okay, what do I do now? Right now?"

Warboss is a fine step-by-step. I just took a look at the old bootcamp, and you should not just go to machine gun approaches right away. Really the first week should be working on trying to look good (gasp!) since that will help everything else so much. Get better clothes, work on your body language with a video camera, stuff like that.

I understand putting yourself out there, but so many folks in the PUA community are hailing from NYC, LA, and Florida. For the rest of us, doing 50 approaches is just not an option.

Here's more like what I'm thinking.

That is an awesome article you linked to , Phyzzle. Just read the whole thing. It's like 8 years old, but timeless material nonetheless. That stuff should be required reading.

And I agree about the approach thing. Living in a big metropolitan area and living in a suburban small town are apples and oranges. You're not going to have much success with a gameplan tailor-made for manhattan when you live in smallsville, new hampshire. But the basics apply no matter where you live.

I'd like to see a few more threads on dressing your best. I think this is an area that is often overlooked. Presenting yourself in sharp attire that works for you and constantly building that physique are invaluable assets.
 

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Colossus said:
I'd like to see a few more threads on dressing your best. I think this is an area that is often overlooked. Presenting yourself in sharp attire that works for you and constantly building that physique are invaluable assets.
got one in mind colossus that you can link here?
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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