"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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So what should I do next? (trying not to be AFC)

BannedGod

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I'm struggling not to be AFC about this, but it's hard lol

Anyways, I've been spending a lot of time with her in the past few weeks, and she is very flirty but I don't know if she has interest in me or not, and I want to find out to move on if she is not interesed, but I don't know how to do so. Should I try to make a move on her? (asking her on a date would be stupid, we already went to the movies and I go to her house often)... Or should I talk to her about it?

I need suggestions people! And please backup what you say, I can't base what I'm going to do on a few words.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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flexion_

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Make a move. Its the only way. If you want backup then read the DJ bible.
 

n00bPimp

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Should I try to make a move on her? (asking her on a date would be stupid, we already went to the movies and I go to her house often)... Or should I talk to her about it?
Talk to her about what? Making a move on her? Just make your move, big man. Its better to say sorry than to ask permission.
 

JPFromTally

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There is no accidents with women. If a girl flirts with you it's because she likes you. Right now you're afraid of rejection. This is the reason you choose to talk instead of to act. An AFC asks, "Can I kiss you?" A DJ just does it.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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musclyjerk

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While you're hanging around with her escalate things physically - start pushing her around and slap her @ss. Flick her ear.. throw sh!t at her, it doesn't matter. Just get physical and play with her until she's becomes submissive and plays the victim - then you can do as you please to her.

If she's interested she will get excited by it all and act really girly and feminine so just go in for the kiss - it will lead to sex if that's what you want, so come prepared!

I'd back it up but I don't have her name and number.

The Muscly Jerk
 

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JPFromTally said:
There is no accidents with women. If a girl flirts with you it's because she likes you.
A lot of girls I know are just naturally flirty. And they're just being misperceived.

As for the OP, how does she flirt with you? Does she touch you in anyway?
 

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If she isn't a big flirt, like with other guys, make a move.
But if she isn't into you... Then you will ruin your friendship...
 

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do you want be hanging out with her all the time while she talks about her attraction to other men?


**** it man, you dont want to be her friend. Call her up and ask if she wants to go on a date, if she says no, say 'ok gotta go, ill cya around' and never speak to her again
 

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Hey man, let me tell you something. And this is from a guy who's probably been through more stupid girl insecurity than you can imagine. Just make a move, try to straight up kiss her. Its one of the most liberating things you can do. On a singular level its awesome binary, yes or no. If its no, then what else could you have done? She won't hate, she'll actually respect you more for being a man about it. But maybe she kisses you back. And maybe its great.

Kissing a girl is the man version of the **** test. If she doesn't react, then who cares? A girl not kissing you isn't that big a deal, you'll laugh about. In fact, its much less humilating than never even trying. For real. They'll usually kiss back too, unless you're a complete douche.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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