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Here we go with the ignorant trailer park comments again...I live in a 2 story 4 bedroom home with a garage, thank you very much.sparky0000 said:can somebody please cue the banjo music.
one nice thing about this is that mobile homes have come a long way in the past 20 years. not as many flats as they once had.
HA HA HA HA HA, They got inside toalets too:rockon:sparky0000 said:can somebody please cue the banjo music.
one nice thing about this is that mobile homes have come a long way in the past 20 years. not as many flats as they once had.
I wish your son the best.Wyldfire said:He and his girlfriend stopped by today to inform me that they are going to have a baby. He's 18 and she is 17. She's a nice girl and I like her. I've raised my son to take responsibility for his choices and/or mistakes and that is what he's doing. I would have preferred that he wait for marriage, but under the circumstances I'm proud of him for standing up and being a man instead of running away like a lot of guys would do. Her mother offered to give them an out and said if they didn't feel they could deal with this that she would adopt the baby and they could still be as involved as they wanted to be. My son didn't want that...he wants to do what he feels is right. He and his girlfriend love each other and and based on what I see from them they encourage each other to follow their goals and dreams.
Where I live, it's very common for couples to get married very young, and oddly enough, they do quite well. There is less divorce here than you see nationally and people stay together far more often. I actually think this will be positive for my son because he's been sort of unmotivated to do much of anything, but all of a sudden he is very motivated to make some positive changes that will serve him well. He seems very excited about becoming a father. If getting married and having a child inspires him in a positive way then I suppose I can live with becoming a Grandma.
From my experience, not always. I know some (early 20s) who are pretty content with being at home and not doing the "party all nite" stuff. These are girls who study hard, praise their families and friends and really have a good attitude. There is a chance. But it is VERY, VERY slim. Definitely most do what you're describing.Latinoman said:He can be as motivated as he wants. But it takes two to tango. A 17-year-old girl will get the "itch" to go party...especially when she turns into her early 20s and see all her friends doing the same.
Unfortunately, you're spot on.Latinoman said:If she goes to college or develop a career...as she reaches her early 20s...she is going to be exposed to more mature men. Men with established careers.
And if she is good looking, she will feel the itch.
If I were to have a child, I would be very inclined to marry (edit: cohabitate). Why? I want my children to have a mother and a father. If, even after my best efforts, the marriage fails, I would make sure I keep the relations as good as they can be for them to have both role models.Latinoman said:I hope your son work very hard on his life too. Because the high rate of divorce in the U.S. is mostly because of divorces initiated by women.
He is doing the honorable thing. So, I wish him luck.
Salty....sparky0000 said:can somebody please cue the banjo music.
one nice thing about this is that mobile homes have come a long way in the past 20 years. not as many flats as they once had.
Another example of allowing society to dictate the rules of marriage. The problem with marriage is that people spend more time preparing for the wedding than on the marriage itself. The get into debt by following "the rules" without being concerned that finances is usually the root to the majority of marital problems. I still say that counselling up front is going to do much more good compared to getting counseling if there are other problems.doctoroxygen said:Why the hell did he buy her a diamond? That money could've been better used in any number of things, from a car to a down payment on a house to starting a college fund for the baby. Buying diamonds at this stage is irresponsible. It's romantic (I guess; I hate diamonds with a passion [read about the engagement ring mythology for an idea why]), but foolish.
It almost reminds me of myself in my stupid younger years. Yeah, I bought the ring and wanted to marry her when I was in my early 20s. It didn't work out though. When she entered her early 20s, she wanted nothing to do with a LTR and wanted to party with her friends. I've seen this happen with so many young couples who were under 25 years old.He and his girlfriend stopped by today to inform me that they are going to have a baby. He's 18 and she is 17.
It amazes me how much you complain about the anti-feminism on this board, but you have no problem introducing the topic.I also have raised all of my kids not to buy into feminist messages
But marriage proves to the woman and everyone else in the world that you are committed. Even if you don't act committed, if you aren't the best father, mother, husband or wife you are still married and it was the right thing to do. Honor doesn't begin before marriage anyway, the only thing that matters is that you get married. Everything that happens before the wedding is a gimme and so is everything after, it doesn't count...Desdinova said:...I would STRONGLY advise the boy not to get married just because she's pregnant. The only thing he's doing by "doing the honorable thing" is pleasing everyone else - most likely her parents. Sorry Wyld, but your son has no direction of his own. He's doing what's going to make everyone else happy while sacrificing his own happiness....
As soon as I hit the submit button I realize that I should have prefaced my message as being sarcasm for the benefit of those who enjoy finding things to morally fly off the hook about.Francisco d'Anconia said:But marriage proves to the woman and everyone else in the world that you are committed. Even if you don't act committed, if you aren't the best father, mother, husband or wife you are still married and it was the right thing to do. Honor doesn't begin before marriage anyway, the only thing that matters is that you get married. Everything that happens before the wedding is a gimme and so is everything after, it doesn't count...