So I went out with my middle eastern buddy

[Skyline]

You did not isolate and escalate. I don't even think you even used kino/escalated at all. Asking just questions isn't going to get you anywhere.

And your wingman wasn't as good as you thought.

 

[bigdave17]

You did not isolate and escalate. I don't even think you even used kino/escalated at all. Asking just questions isn't going to get you anywhere.

And your wingman wasn't as good as you thought.

the wingman and the other girl were seemingly getting along very well too. They were both muslim so they had that connection

I liked the other girl a lot more personality wise. I think the 1 I was talking to ended up being kind of a *****. She's probably the reason they left. The other girl really liked both of us

 

[sazc]

I was asking her questions about herself too, it was just flowing nicely. It's not like I kept the focus on myself, she was the one constantly putting the focus on me

but I really was being extremely confident around her

so the one I was talking to went to the bathroom and her friend stayed for like 10 seconds and tells me "you guys are getting along great". Then friend left and we never saw either of them. Really strange

she got bored of you and felt trapped so she excused herself to the bathroom in order to escape.

you need to learn when to excuse yourself so you not only leave on a good note but also leave her with some mystery.

that is as simple as giving her your digits and then excusing yourself to go to the bathroom and not returning. let HER seek you out in the venue, then you say "hey there, where'd you go off to?" as if you looked for her but couldnt find her. this keeps the mystery...she'll be talking about you on loveshack, instead of the other way around, plus, she will have your number to call IF she wants

 

[bigdave17]

she got bored of you and felt trapped so she excused herself to the bathroom in order to escape.

you need to learn when to excuse yourself so you not only leave on a good note but also leave her with some mystery.

that is as simple as giving her your digits and then excusing yourself to go to the bathroom and not returning. let HER seek you out in the venue, then you say "hey there, where'd you go off to?" as if you looked for her but couldnt find her. this keeps the mystery...she'll be talking about you on loveshack, instead of the other way around, plus, she will have your number to call IF she wants

in the past, whenever I've gotten some traction started with a woman like this, they've stuck to me all night like glue that's why I'm so puzzled

 

[sazc]

in the past, whenever I've gotten some traction started with a woman like this, they've stuck to me all night like glue that's why I'm so puzzled

once again, you are trying to rationalize how you did everything correctly and ignoring what everyone says
you are consistent in that you want people to stroke your ego and say "there there big dave, you poor baby, you are right and everyone else is wrong, here's your trophy"

millennials.....

 

[bigdave17]

once again, you are trying to rationalize how you did everything correctly and ignoring what everyone says
you are consistent in that you want people to stroke your ego and say "there there big dave, you poor baby, you are right and everyone else is wrong, here's your trophy"

millennials.....

I think this is just a lack of interest

If she was really interested, she would have stuck to me like glue all night

 

[sazc]

I think this is just a lack of interest

If she was really interested, she would have stuck to me like glue all night

of course she would have

there there big dave, you poor baby, you did nothing wrong, it was all her fault.

Here's your trophy

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

I was asking her questions about herself too, it was just flowing nicely.

Most divorces happen to guys that think everything is going great.

Consider the possibility that your perception that everything was going great may be vastly incorrect.

 

[bigdave17]

of course she would have

there there big dave, you poor baby, you did nothing wrong, it was all her fault.

Here's your trophy

uhhhh lack of interest means she wasn't interested in me.

I don't like that game playing sh*t you talked about. If I have to do that to get her interested in me, then she's not my type. I want somebody who is going to be very interested in me if I just behave like myself, like I will be very interested in her

important thing is I have to keep being confident and not outcome dependent at all. I was not desperate at all around her, I was totally making her work for my attention and treating myself like the prize

 

[zekko]

I liked the other girl a lot more personality wise. I think the 1 I was talking to ended up being kind of a *****.

It appeared the one girl might be into you, so OF COURSE you liked the other one. You're nothing if not consistent.

 

[bigdave17]

It appeared the one girl might be into you, so OF COURSE you liked the other one. You're nothing if not consistent.

I talked to girl 2 at first, we got along great but she said she was Muslim and she was a little too chubby for my taste

I moved to girl 1 and she was not nearly as nice or interesting personality wise but still pretty cool and I think we still got along very well. I was not being desperate at all. I was being extremely confident. We hung out for a wile

Girl 1 goes to the bathroom. GIrl 2 tells me "you guys are getting along great" and then she went to the bathroom also and they didn't return

Me and my buddy didn't hang around for long. We waited for a little bit and then went to a different bar

 

[sazc]

if you've already have it ALL figured out...

uhhhh lack of interest means she wasn't interested in me.

I don't like that game playing sh*t you talked about. If I have to do that to get her interested in me, then she's not my type. I want somebody who is going to be very interested in me if I just behave like myself, like I will be very interested in her

important thing is I have to keep being confident and not outcome dependent at all. I was not desperate at all around her, I was totally making her work for my attention and treating myself like the prize

WHY are you posting asking "why"?

Finally had a chance to go out with somebody who is a good wingman - dude is good looking, very muscular and dresses super sharp
I only really saw a good opportunity to approach 2 hotties one time and we did approach them. At first, it seemed like everything was going great. The one I was talking to was asking me tons and tons of questions about me and seemed extremely interested in me. I felt great, was very confident around her, not being desperate at all.


At one point in the night though, after like 30-45 minutes, they went to the bathroom and never came back. What would cause that? Was she faking her interest in me? If so, why?

Again, here's your trophy.....

 

[AJ84]

in the past, whenever I've gotten some traction started with a woman like this, they've stuck to me all night like glue that's why I'm so puzzled

Not all women are the same so.... no use pondering over why she didn’t act the same same way other women acted when you got some traction.

 

[Dingo]

They probably got the "I got blow" from the guy that ****s them real good.

 

[AJ84]

uhhhh lack of interest means she wasn't interested in me.

I don't like that game playing sh*t you talked about. If I have to do that to get her interested in me, then she's not my type. I want somebody who is going to be very interested in me if I just behave like myself, like I will be very interested in her

important thing is I have to keep being confident and not outcome dependent at all. I was not desperate at all around her, I was totally making her work for my attention and treating myself like the prize

Most people don’t behave like themselves at a bar. It’s a bar. With alcohol. And a pick up vibe. It’s OLD in the flesh. Not the best way to meet your potential wife. And as you don’t want to gain experience and confidence by just dating decent looking interested women because you think that’s immoral, why are you going to bars?

Just hire a match maker or something.

 

[sazc]

Most people don’t behave like themselves at a bar. It’s a bar. With alcohol. And a pick up vibe. It’s OLD in the flesh. Not the best way to meet your potential wife. And as you don’t want to gain experience and confidence by just dating decent looking interested women because you think that’s immoral, why are you going to bars?

Just hire a match maker or something.

cant wait for his justfication s to why he is right and you are wrong. want a copy of that trophy?

 

[bigdave17]

Most people don’t behave like themselves at a bar. It’s a bar. With alcohol. And a pick up vibe. It’s OLD in the flesh. Not the best way to meet your potential wife. And as you don’t want to gain experience and confidence by just dating decent looking interested women because you think that’s immoral, why are you going to bars?

Just hire a match maker or something.

i go to bars because i live in the suburbs and its hard to even see single women in their mid 20s anywhere else

I should be dominating the bar scene. I'm a good looking dude with great "presentation". I have a nice deep voice, strong body language, etc... If i'm not good enough, what the hell are they looking for?

me and my boy last night were the 2 best looking/best dressed/most muscular dudes at any bar we went to

 

[sosousage]

of course she would have

there there big dave, you poor baby, you did nothing wrong, it was all her fault.

Here's your trophy
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lmao

is it what single moms use?

 

[zekko]

me and my boy last night were the 2 best looking/best dressed/most muscular dudes at any bar we went to

Of course you were

 

[spinich]

But you aren't the prize you think you are. The world keeps telling you this. Listen.