Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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So easy yet so hard...

MrGold

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Ok from the start...
Used to goto college with a really pretty girl, hardly ever spoke to her. She didnt really show any interest. Now this was a coupla years ago and ive changed loads since then. Grown from 5"6 to 6"3.. plus some facial hair and muscles.

Now we randomly met at a club about a week ago and she was really interested. Conversation was flowing, and she was giving off the right signs. I asked her for her number before leaving, but she didnt know it :cool:, so instead she gave me her name so i could add her on facebook. I added her on facebook and she insisted we talk on MSN (hope you guys are familiar with that, chattin thing...) I know you guys are against that kinda stuff but i thought i might give it a try. Now ive spoken to her a couple of times, and things seem to be going well...

Here comes the problem... She knows im seeing someone, but doesnt really have a problem with chilling with me. I havent really made progress further than the flirting stage. I was hoping you guys could advise me on how to make further progress...
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Been "with them"? That doesn't explain anything. Are you dating her? Fvck buddies? What? You have to be more detailed.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Ace of Flames

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So then... what? Do you wanna get with this new chick and cheat on your gf? That's pretty sh!tty man. What are you planning to do?
 

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Hmm basically... My girls going uni this year pretty far away. And I dont think im going to see her for a while, which kinda pisses me off, and makes me feel guilty. Then again, with her going so far away all the time and only periodic phone calls, i wanna keep my options open and keep this new girl interested. Just incase she decides that the relationship isnt working anymore. Not exactly cheat on her right the way.
 

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What are you asking advice for then? To see if its OK? That's up to your morals man.

If its advice for moving things along with this new girl, then are you saying you don't know how? You got a gf, right? You should know what to do.
 

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Further progress? Don't chat on MSN other than to get her digits. Plan something. See her. Start getting her emotionally attached to you. Why are you seeking validation for your desires on a forum? Go for it and don't look back. Stop being so f*cking passive.
 
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